# New Avengers movie - anyone else confused by the title? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395 "2012-05-09T15:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/1 "2012-05-09T15:19:50Z")
I’d heard about a new Avengers movie and immediately thought of Emma Peel and John Steed. Now I’m hearing the Avengers is some sort of comic book hero movie? 😕 That’s confusing. Heck, the Avengers still pops up on cable channels in reruns. That’s how I became a fan 20 years ago. Trying to keep up with pop culture isn’t easy. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/2 "2012-05-09T15:21:01Z")
Yep, me too, I thought Scarlett Johanssen was playing Emma Peel and Robert Downey, Jr., was Steed. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/3 "2012-05-09T15:25:25Z")
Robert Downey, Jr., would be great as John Steed too. I was so excited about an Avengers remake movie. The Avengers was such a great series. I wish the name wasn’t used for a comic book movie. We’ll have this confusion for a long time. Eventually a Avengers movie will be made based on the old series. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/4 "2012-05-09T15:25:36Z")
I’ll cop to it. Even tho I’m in my early 30s and they filmed part of the movie in my town (Cleveland). I didn’t know until it came out that it was the superhero Avengers and not the bowler hat Avengers. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/5 "2012-05-09T15:29:15Z")
Yeah, me too. I was never that much of a Marvel comic guy, and I grew up watching John Steed and Emma Peel. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/6 "2012-05-09T15:37:52Z")
> [@Eve](#): > > Yep, me too, I thought Scarlett Johanssen was playing Emma Peel and Robert Downey, Jr., was Steed. I was a fan of those Avengers as well - I would pay good money to see that movie. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/7 "2012-05-09T15:44:10Z")
Back in my day, we watched the Avengers (1961). We didn’t have that new-fangled, damn whippersnapper fruity super-mans Avengers (1963)! ---
**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/8 "2012-05-09T15:45:33Z")
The only thing I was disappointed about when I watched ‘The Avengers’ was that we never got to see Emma um… peel. ---
**Author:** ![Wolverine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wolverine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolverine)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/9 "2012-05-09T15:52:40Z")
I have the opposite problem. I knew about the superhero team from when I was 7 years old picking up a stray comic book, but I’ve still never watched any of the shows or movie. Anytime I hear The Avengers, I immediately think about the comic book. I originally was confused when the 1998 movie came out (it looked bad so I skipped it). ---
**Author:** ![Cumbrian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce7236/32.png) [@Cumbrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumbrian)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/10 "2012-05-09T15:54:10Z")
This is why, in the UK, the film is called Avengers Assemble. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/11 "2012-05-09T15:54:37Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Eventually a Avengers movie will be made based on the old series. Unfortunately, [there was](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118661/). But I understand why you blotted it out of your memory. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/12 "2012-05-09T15:54:50Z")
> [@Wolverine](#): > > I have the opposite problem. I knew about the superhero team from when I was 7 years old picking up a stray comic book, but I’ve still never watched any of the shows or movie. Anytime I hear The Avengers, I immediately think about the comic book. Maybe someday you’ll get to see a play called MAN AND SUPERMAN. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/13 "2012-05-09T16:02:29Z")
Bowler hat Avengers? Never heard of anyone other than the superhero Avengers. ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/14 "2012-05-09T16:03:00Z")
No, of course not. The marketing for this movie has been everywhere. Disney has absolutely saturated all media with ads. With the exception of simply looking at the showtimes, I don’t know how anyone with a tv or computer could be aware of the name but not the brand. Even walking through a retail store, the Avengers merch is everywhere. The Marvel movies leading up to this made a billion at the box office, were huge hits, and actively built towards The Avengers. Captain America’s movie even had “The First Avenger” in the title. And The Avengers have been a continuous brand in comics since 1963. The other, by comparison, couldn’t be further out of the public’s consciousness. A second rate, foreign, tv show that could be kindly called a cult success in the sixties which was later remade in the 90s into one of the worst and most disposable movies Sean Connery ever made. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/15 "2012-05-09T16:10:01Z")
For many of us the Avengers was right up their with James Bond and The Saint. It was a huge success in reruns for decades. I wasn’t even born when the Avengers first aired. But I saw all the episodes in reruns in high school. I had forgotten about the Avengers remake movie over ten years ago. It was terrible. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/16 "2012-05-09T16:10:56Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Bowler hat Avengers? Never heard of anyone other than the superhero Avengers. They seem to be more known overseas, in the old country in Latin America, they were big in the 70’s, there was a lag on the releases in Latin America due to the dubbing of the show to Spanish. > **[The Avengers (1960s)](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/TheAvengers1960s?from=Series.TheAvengers)** > > The Avengers is a very popular (and often revamped) British series that ran during most of The '60s (from 1961 to 1969). It was created by Sydney Newman (a few years before he created Doctor Who) and produced by Associated British Corporation (or … > [@](#): > > A TV strike delayed the start of the second season so Hendry left to pursue a film career. Steed became the show’s central character and the production team started to explore other partnerships. The first, lasting just a few episodes, was Dr King, a blatant Suspiciously Similar Substitute. He was followed up by stories that alternately paired Steed up with nightclub singer Venus Smith (The Chick) and female spy Cathy Gale (arguably TV’s first true Action Girl). Cathy, who was mostly written identically to Dr Keel, proved to be the most popular and Venus was quietly dropped. > > This retooling of the show became a massive smash. With a consistent Spy Couple format, the show began to move away from more mundane villains and towards science fictional supervillains and diabolical masterminds. > > Blackman left to pursue a film career (playing Pussy Galore in Goldfinger\*) and was replaced by Diana Rigg as Emma Peel, described as a “talented amateur”. Simultaneously, production switched from videotape to 35mm film. The show became much more stylish and faster-paced and even gained a new theme tune, although it wasn’t until the next season that it was produced in colour. Mrs Peel - whose husband didn’t make an appearance until her final episode - set the trend of the Spy Catsuit and continued the gentleman spy/Action Girl setup. Steed and Mrs Peel became the show’s iconic pairing, helped by the introduction of filmed and colour episodes raising the show in the public’s consciousness. One funny bit established that they inhabit the same universe as James Bond: Steed and Emma got a greeting card from Cathy Gale: **Emma Peel** : [Mrs. Peel is helping Steed open his Christmas cards] “Best wishes for the future - Cathy” **John Steed** : Mrs. Gale! And how nice of her to remember me… What can she be doing in Fort Knox? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/17 "2012-05-09T16:11:39Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > Bowler hat Avengers? Never heard of anyone other than the superhero Avengers. [British “spy-fi” TV series](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Avengers_(TV_series)). ---
**Author:** ![Rhiannon8404](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rhiannon8404/32/17929_2.png) [@Rhiannon8404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhiannon8404)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/18 "2012-05-09T16:15:16Z")
While I know the new movie is about some comic book characters, every time I hear “The Avengers” I still think of the British TV series. I don’t care much about comic books and I love British TV. ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@MegaBee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/19 "2012-05-09T16:26:25Z")
When I was a kid, I saw that The Avengers was coming on TV. Then it was that British TV show, not the superheroes, and I was sad. ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395/20 "2012-05-09T16:31:37Z")
> [@simster](#): > > I was a fan of those Avengers as well - I would pay good money to see that movie. Me, too! [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-avengers-movie-anyone-else-confused-by-the-title/621395.md?page=2)