# New Battlestar Galactica series in January

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 23, 2004, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307 "2004-12-23T08:20:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2004, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/21 "2004-12-23T22:03:31Z")

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cool, thanks for the info thwart

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2004, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/22 "2004-12-23T23:57:37Z")

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> [@Balduran](#):
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> [ubergeek]yahrens[/ug]

funny, i thought it was arns…

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/23 "2004-12-24T00:25:37Z")

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> [@Malodorous](#):
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> They kept those Cylons, didn’t they. They were shown in the first scene of the miniseries as I recall, they appeared to be servants or footsoldiers or something to the human-ceylons.
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> Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me?

IIRC, the premise of the show is that the humans beat the TV show Cylons many years in the past. The Cylons were beat and humanity rebuilt. The Galactica was a relic from that time, filled with old-school tech and served as kind of a military museum.

Unfortunately, when humanity rebuilt, the Cylons were working on a plan. They came up with human-Cylons as an upgrade, then infiltrated the rebuilding humans. This allowed them access at all levels, including the top of the defense programs, and allowed them to attack humanity in an undetected fashion. You know, that one dude who designed all of the stuff with the Cylon girlfriend.

Only the old tech stuff, like the Galactica, was able to survive. All of the rest of humanity was torched.

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**Author:** ![Odinoneeye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/97f17d/32.png) [@Odinoneeye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odinoneeye)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/24 "2004-12-24T01:17:34Z")

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Actually, the human cyclons appeared in the original series.

At least in Galactica 1980. Which I do beleive some people place in the whole “Nope, never happened, didn’t see it” category.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/25 "2004-12-24T01:43:47Z")

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In the Galactica 1980 series (how I hate having to even admit it exists), the humanoid Cylons were androids: human in external appearence but basicly machinery inside. In the new series they’re something much more sinister. They’re pseudo-humans: genetically created lifeforms that are physically human but have Cylon thought processes hardwired into their brains. They’re AIs made of meat instead of metal. And judging by what’s happening to Gaius Baltar, the Cylons are working on extending themselves into regular humans as well.  
There’s just one thing I don’t know about. In the new series FTL travel is based on hyperspace jumping. So I don’t see how they can follow the format of “fight Cylon patrols and then run away before reenforcements arrive”. With hyperspace jumping reenforcements are minutes away. If the Cylons ever find the human refugees, they’re dead.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/26 "2004-12-24T02:19:32Z")

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Most importantly, they lower the FX budget all to heck.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/27 "2004-12-24T04:13:53Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> You mean as opposed to the current stars? Jessica Simpson, Jackass and Stifler?

Sorry, I meant if they cast one of the _male_ stars of the WB as Daisy. See, because when I was little I had a big TV crush on Starbuck, even though most of my guy friends had a crush on Daisy Duke, which was different, because… ah, never mind.

I’ve heard the new series is good. I’ll check it out.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/28 "2004-12-24T04:31:58Z")

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If they were going to recast male characters as female characters, then in all fairness they should recast female characters as male. Therefore, for this show to gain any respect from me at all, they better give Apollo a boyfriend.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/29 "2004-12-24T19:40:23Z")

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> [@Balduran](#):
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> [ubergeek]yahrens[/ug]

Wow! I will now pay tribute to this ubergeek!

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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/30 "2004-12-24T23:37:13Z")

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I’m really looking forward to the new series because the pilot/miniseries wasn’t just good, it was phenomenally good! Really original and, more important, decidedly adult!

The way the Cylons didn’t just attack the human homeworlds, they **nuked them!** The way, after tugging your heart strings with Mary McDonald talking to that little girl refugee, having to leave them behind to be killed (and hearing one of them say over the radio, “may you all burn in hell”)! And especially the way Number 6, after being fascinated by the human baby, just freakin’ kills it! :eek:

It was about 1000 times better than Enterprise (which I still watch anyway). And it was about a million times better than the original Galactica which, let’s face it, sucked.

Ok, sucked is too strong a word. But the show only was what it was, namely a really, really, **REALLY** goofy kid’s show. I watched it every week and liked it, but I was 12!

There are many words to describe über-producer Glen Larson, but original or adult aren’t two. Galactica was as silly & campy as Knight Rider…

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/31 "2004-12-25T04:45:23Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> They’ve been running a LOT of commercials for this thing on SciFi for the past couple of weeks. I’m looking forward to it, but I missed the miniseries back when it was on. Are they going to replay it before the regular series begins?

I saw the pilot, but I also have been wondering if they are going to rerun it. I didn’t before because I was so sceptical. Afterwards, when I realized how much I liked it I was kicking myself.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/32 "2004-12-25T05:15:14Z")

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> [@Hail Ants](#):
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> It was about 1000 times better than Enterprise

Don’t be silly. Did you see the last two arcs?

> [@Hail Ants](#):
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> And it was about a million times better than the original Galactica

My friend, _I Love Lucy_ was a million times better than _Battlestar Ponderosa_.

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**Author:** ![Halge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8baadc/32.png) [@Halge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Halge)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/33 "2004-12-25T05:52:45Z")

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This series is great. I saw episode 9 ‘Secrets and Lies’ the other day and it is my favourite so far. Gaius Baltar is soo awesome a character. Then there is the general distrust and the paranoia and lies. And what the 😕 is the Cylons planning?

I do not think even the most hardcore fan of the original series will be dissapointed.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/34 "2004-12-25T06:31:53Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> My friend, _I Love Lucy_ was a million times better than _Battlestar Ponderosa_.

Or, as the humor magazine “Crazy” called it then: _Cattlecar Galactica_!

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**Author:** ![murky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@murky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/murky)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/35 "2005-01-04T18:04:31Z")

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add me to the list of eager Battlenerds. I’ve been hearing some great reviews from buddies across the pond and I really liked the mini-series.

For whoever asked, NBC aired the mini-series (though edited down) a few weeks ago. You can also buy/rent it if you like. It was nice to be able to get back up to speed to prep for the premiere.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/36 "2005-01-04T18:26:50Z")

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I, for one, salute our new cliche filled alien overlords!

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**Author:** ![Cliffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/59ef9b/32.png) [@Cliffy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cliffy)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/37 "2005-01-04T19:05:08Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> Are they going to replay [the miniseries] before the regular series begins?

Yes. The miniseries is scheduled to rerun Wednesday 1/12 at 7:00 PM and 1/16 at 3:00 PM. Also the first half only is scheduled for Tuesday 1/11 at 9:00 PM, so you could watch two hours on both Tues and Wed starting at 9:00. (All times Eastern.)

I know a guy who works at Sci-Fi and has seen most episodes. He says it’s really good. (And he has been honest about stuff he doesn’t like, so he’s trustworthy.)

–Cliffy

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/38 "2005-01-04T19:35:10Z")

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It is very good. Good use of special effects, but not over-use, and a slightly more believable air. Only two more episodes to go here, I believe.

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**Author:** ![Kaitlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/73ab20/32.png) [@Kaitlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kaitlyn)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/39 "2005-01-04T21:30:45Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> They made Starbuck into a woman.
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> This is unacceptable.
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> I don’t particularly _care_ if “they handled it well” or “she’s really good in the part” or “you’d be surprised, but it works” or “but she’s a hot woman” [which she is, I’ll grant] or any of that. It’s just _not_ something you do.

I with you on this. A man should stay a man.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2005, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-battlestar-galactica-series-in-january/281307/40 "2005-01-05T18:12:50Z")

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I was wondering when they’d get around to serializing this. I really liked the pilot and am looking forward to the new epsiodes.

Does anyone have a link to the CS thread where we critiqued the pilot? I did a search, but came up empty handed.

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