# New book by two Dopers - the truth about vaccines **URL:** \ **Category:** Marketplace\ **Created:** [August 16, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631 "2012-08-16T00:43:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/226 "2014-09-24T04:52:24Z")
I meant more like getting the site administrator to ban her from commenting on your articles. I flagged her comments as spam, because that’s what they are, and I strongly recommend everyone else do so. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/227 "2014-09-25T15:12:16Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > Ugh. How do you put up with these people all the time. One evening and I’m burnt out. I co-authored a book thinking I would say all I had to say on this issue and be done with it . . . > [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > I meant more like getting the site administrator to ban her from commenting on your articles. I flagged her comments as spam, because that’s what they are, and I strongly recommend everyone else do so. I have no control over comments alas. If I did, I would perma-ban the Daschel-bot from the entire internet. I’m sick of that ass. She shows up on every last article on this subject and then quotes herself. Or Wakefield. Or whatever anti-vax moron she and her ilk have anointed as prophet of the week. She also goes on and on and on and on about the alleged payments we’re all making to defend vaccines but she’s the one literally being paid to post. Yeah Annie. You’re on the payroll and we aren’t, you whiny assed hypocrite. She’s just so damned stupid. The Chicago millionaire I was writing about is Mercola not Mayer Eisenstein. They’re all so damned dumb. The 780,000 annual deaths from hep b figure is from the WHO, Gottstein. It’s called google, you ninny. Use it. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/228 "2014-09-25T16:12:20Z")
That’s some serious outbreak of Dachel-botitis in the comments section. A good antidote is [Dr. Paul Offit’s op-ed](http://online.wsj.com/articles/paul-a-offit-the-anti-vaccination-epidemic-1411598408) in the Wall St. Journal today, about increasing outbreaks of vaccine-preventable disease, traceable in part to fashionable anti-vax views among parents in wealthy enclaves of southern California (and the fringe pediatricians who cater to them). I didn’t see the usual combatants show up in the comments I looked at, but they’ll no doubt be converging there before long. \*When will **LavenderBlue** gain the “honor” of a hit piece on Age of Autism (a website largely run by and for antivaxers)\*\*? You’ll know you’ve really arrived when that crowd targets you. \*\*or even more repulsively, the “Bolen Report”. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/229 "2014-09-25T16:24:04Z")
I have already had the “honor” of showing up on the Age of Autism. Here one idiot writer can’t figure out that I wrote the book with **Kolga** rather than the esteemed Dr. Offit. > [@](#): > > [http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/07/vaccines-benefits-outweigh-risks-implies-children-injured-by-vaccines-are-expendable.html#more](http://www.ageofautism.com/2013/07/vaccines-benefits-outweigh-risks-implies-children-injured-by-vaccines-are-expendable.html#more) > > Stacy Mintzer Herlihy, who with multimillionaire vaccine industrialist Dr. Paul Offit co-wrote Your Baby’s Best Shot: Why Vaccines Are Safe and Save Lives, He wrote the foreword not the book. I’m also so sick of hearing from people like her that nothing will happen if we don’t vaccinate. From a private email exchange with Dr. Offit: > [@](#): > > Dear Dr. Offit, > > Are children who are susceptible to vaccine reactions also susceptible to serious side effects from vaccine-preventable diseases? That would seem to make sense, right? If you going to get hurt from the MMR, wouldn’t you be equally at risk from an actual case of the measles or the mumps? > > I am writing a piece for a blog about this premise. Thank you! > > – Stacy Herlihy > > - > > Yes. That’s right. So, for example, if you are get a mild rash from a varicella vaccine you would presumably be more likely to get a severe rash from natural varicella virus than someone who didn’t have a rash following vaccine. So people who are more vulnerable to vaccine reactions are also _more_ vulnerable to vaccine-preventable diseases. They need to be doubly sure that the rest of us get vaccinated on their behalf so they don’t get even sicker when measles shows up again. Vaccine injury is correlated with injury from vaccine-preventable diseases. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/230 "2014-09-25T23:13:53Z")
> [@](#): > > She shows up on every last article on this subject and then quotes herself. Or Wakefield. Or whatever anti-vax moron she and her ilk have anointed as prophet of the week. She also goes on and on and on and on about the alleged payments we’re all making to defend vaccines but she’s the one literally being paid to post. Hence why literally everyone should _flag her comments as spam_. Indeed, it’s pretty much the textbook definition of spam - she’s being paid to repost copy-pasted ad campaigns for her website all over the internet. Shut it down. I’m all in favor of free speech, but if someone made 10 posts with links to “best places to buy shoes”, even if the article was about shoes, then that person is spamming and should be removed. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2014, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/231 "2014-09-30T09:27:42Z")
Speaking of **LavenderBlue** being awesome: > **[The Book That Had to be Written](https://www.voicesforvaccines.org/the-book-that-had-to-be-written/)** > > Like many people, I came to writing after a love affair with reading. The last book count in my house was over ten thousand. We have twenty-five “official” bookcases and a dozen more piles scattered… (Is that you, or the other person behind this book?) ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/232 "2014-10-10T00:05:31Z")
[Relevant article](http://www.slate.com/articles/life/family/2014/01/growing_up_unvaccinated_a_healthy_lifestyle_couldn_t_prevent_many_childhood.html), written by a woman who wishes her parents had vaccinated her. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/233 "2014-10-10T01:35:47Z")
Ooh, I shared that article on FB. I thought it was well written and on point. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/234 "2014-10-10T19:43:52Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Speaking of **LavenderBlue** being awesome: > > [The Book That Had to be Written | Voices For Vaccines](http://www.voicesforvaccines.org/the-book-that-had-to-be-written/) > > (Is that you, or the other person behind this book?) That’s her, not me. \*\*LavenderBlue \*\*is awesomesauce personified. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/235 "2014-12-19T02:56:37Z")
The book will out in paperback on January 16th. We were just proofing the cover today. Now that my youngest will be in preschool for several hours a day by next month, I hope to be able to devote my attention with **Kolga** to fully work on our next book project. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/236 "2015-01-08T03:46:17Z")
I don’t know how I missed this before. That is awesome! You are both so awesome! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/237 "2015-01-08T17:52:26Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > That article annoyed me so I wrote to the editor of the Jewish Journal. He gave me equal time! > > 🙂 > > [http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/why\_i\_have\_vaccinated\_my\_daughters](http://www.jewishjournal.com/opinion/article/why_i_have_vaccinated_my_daughters) The graphic at the top pretty much wins the argument by itself. Lots of kids used to die each year of illnesses like diphtheria. And now NO ONE AT ALL dies from diphtheria in the U.S., and the death toll from so many other diseases is down to just a few percentage points of what it used to be. And it’s all because of vaccines. Too bad we can’t send the anti-vaxxer crowd to Gitmo. They kill just as surely as any terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/238 "2015-01-11T22:36:42Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > The book will out in paperback on January 16th. We were just proofing the cover today. Now that my youngest will be in preschool for several hours a day by next month, I hope to be able to devote my attention with **Kolga** to fully work on our next book project. I was glancing through the Amazon reviews of your book and I noticed that most of the 5 star reviews are on top (yay) and the bad reviews not as well regarded. But when I looked closely I noticed that the good reviews had almost consistently 10 people who felt the reviews were not helpful. 37 of 47, 24 of 34, 35 of 45, etc. A few had a difference of 7 or 8 but the vast majority had exactly 10 people (or accounts) who found the good reviews ‘not helpful’. By comparison the bad reviews have much greater failure rates (22 of 341). The antivaxxers may not be named, but they are numbered. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/239 "2015-01-29T01:22:19Z")
> [@Rushgeekgirl](#): > > I don’t know how I missed this before. That is awesome! You are both so awesome! Thank you very much. The book is out in paperback right now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631.md?page=11)