# New book by two Dopers - the truth about vaccines

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631>\
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**Created:** [August 16, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631 "2012-08-16T00:43:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/41 "2012-08-18T02:21:38Z")

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This is fantastic. I’m so impressed. Thanks or igniting the good fight.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/42 "2012-08-18T02:28:16Z")

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Posted to FB, too.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/43 "2012-08-18T02:41:27Z")

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Congratulations on your publication! Facebooked it as well. I’m sure it will cost me a couple of Friends, but…fuck 'em, I’m rather sick of their psychotic posts anyhow. 😃

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/44 "2012-08-18T06:56:59Z")

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I sent a link of this to my friend who posted a link to an anti-vax site a long while back. He’s a sane, rational individual, though, not an anti-vaxxer, I just think he didn’t have the expertise in the matter to really evaluate the claims the site made. I sent him this because it will do a better job than I ever would of explaining everything.

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2012, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/45 "2012-08-18T07:17:11Z")

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> [@RyJae](#):
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> I will withhold judgement on your stand on autism until I read your book. I have had other parents talk to me on a playground about their “autistic” child. Who I observe interacting with the other kids, running over and talking to their mom. All normal like… and it bugs me… but I also know from everything I have heard around me, from my daughters teachers to therapists to family… it seems to be growing.

My kid is autistic. Diagnosed etc. Unmistakably. Yet if you see him on playground, you will see him interacting (somewhat) with other kids, running over to me and talking with me (you’d have to stand close to hear the speech problems such as mixing pronouns and formulaic speech).

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/46 "2012-08-20T00:24:23Z")

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It looks like a splendid book. I shall try to get my hands on it. 🙂

Congratulations!

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**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/47 "2012-08-20T00:43:52Z")

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Requested at my county library. Good luck with sales!

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/48 "2012-08-20T01:09:55Z")

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That’s so amazing! Congratulations and I, too, will be recommending it to people I know.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/49 "2012-08-20T01:31:00Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> It looks like a splendid book. I shall try to get my hands on it. 🙂
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> Congratulations!

> [@ENugent](#):
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> Requested at my county library. Good luck with sales!

> [@faithfool](#):
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> That’s so amazing! Congratulations and I, too, will be recommending it to people I know.

Thank you all.

I wish Amazon had more sense on this issue. Put the word vaccine into an Amazon search on books and this one up comes third on the list:

> **[Amazon.com: Vaccine Safety Manual for Concerned Families and Health...](https://www.amazon.com/Vaccine-Safety-Concerned-Families-Practitioners/dp/188121737X)**
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> Amazon.com: Vaccine Safety Manual for Concerned Families and Health Practitioners, 2nd Edition: Guide to Immunization Risks and Protection: 9781881217374: Neil Z. Miller, Russell Blaylock: Books

That’s the Neil Z. Miller book.

Miller is a nutter. Where does he get his information from? Why from speaking with space aliens of course! I am not making that up.

> [@](#):
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> [http://www.facebook.com/neilzmiller/posts/319935448097243](http://www.facebook.com/neilzmiller/posts/319935448097243)
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> Last year, over the course of several months, I had the honor of interviewing several extraterrestrials from advanced civilizations. They discussed the nature of God, evolution of the soul, universal laws, the true nature of time, alternative energy, the real cause of disease, shadow governments, and lots more! Our interviews were published this month in a new book, Ambassadors Between Worlds.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/50 "2012-08-20T02:06:46Z")

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Congratulations and thank you.

So, do you know Brian Deer?

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/51 "2012-08-20T07:28:39Z")

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We do not (unless **LavenderBlue** has a relationship with him that I don’t know about, in which case we shall Have Words 🙂 ). However, his investigation into the Wakefield issue was an inspiration to us.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/52 "2012-08-20T23:27:22Z")

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Well, if you ever meet him, tell him you know someone on a message board that just gushes about what a hero he is.

In the meantime, you will be my heroes, and I will brag to everyone how well I know you.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/53 "2012-08-20T23:32:36Z")

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Congratulations and good luck!

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/54 "2012-08-21T00:12:53Z")

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Oh yay! I’m so happy you found a publisher. 😃

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/55 "2012-08-21T01:07:25Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> Well, if you ever meet him, tell him you know someone on a message board that just gushes about what a hero he is.

I’ll do that, right after I finish gushing to him about how _I_ think he’s a hero 😃

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/56 "2012-08-21T01:58:37Z")

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I talked to Dr. Offit over the phone like a teenager within ten feet of Justin Bieber. Does that count?

😃

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/57 "2012-08-21T05:22:44Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I talked to Dr. Offit over the phone like a teenager within ten feet of Justin Bieber. Does that count?
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> 😃

What **LavenderBlue** is kindly not sharing is that while she was the point contact person for Paul Offit, I was too star-struck to even talk to him on the phone 😃

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/58 "2012-08-21T14:03:02Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> I plan to order a copy and have it sent to the following address:
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> Jenny McCarthy  
> Jenny Mccarthy Productions  
> Bloom, Hergott and Diemer, Llp  
> 150 S Rodeo Drive  
> 3rd Floor  
> Beverly Hills, CA 90212

I plan to take a monster-class poop and have it sent to the same address.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/59 "2012-08-21T19:48:28Z")

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Nice review of the book on the Parents Magazine website:

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> [http://www.parents.com/blogs/mom-must-read/2012/08/21/parenting-advice/two-new-baby-books-about-recipes-and-shots/](http://www.parents.com/blogs/mom-must-read/2012/08/21/parenting-advice/two-new-baby-books-about-recipes-and-shots/)
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> Written for parents who are pro-vaccine or who just want information about what’s in all of those kids’ shots, this book is a great resource.

Yeah!

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/60 "2012-08-21T22:45:51Z")

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Congratulations to both of you.

I was going to mention the book in an Amazon health forum discussion on vaccines, but the end result would probably be a pack of antivaxers posting negative reviews of the book without ever having read it.

So, how much did Big Pharma pay you to write it? 😃

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