# New book by two Dopers - the truth about vaccines **URL:** \ **Category:** Marketplace\ **Created:** [August 16, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631 "2012-08-16T00:43:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/141 "2012-11-19T00:17:55Z")
I will be at the Roseland NJ public library tomorrow night at 7 p.m. to speak about the book. [http://www.rfplnj.org/?q=content%2Fvaccine-author-speak-library-monday-1119](http://www.rfplnj.org/?q=content%2Fvaccine-author-speak-library-monday-1119) Please come and meet me if you can. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/142 "2012-11-19T02:58:46Z")
Iā€™m still thinking of requesting this book for my local library. Iā€™ll try to do it when I get the chance. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/143 "2012-11-19T05:46:16Z")
> [@Washoe](#): > > Oh crapā€”you had completely forgotten about my debt. :smack: It was dark chocolate, specifically. You demanded payment for reviewing my class assignment a little over a year ago, and I pointed out that chocolate was (and to the best of my knowledge still is) the standard unit of currency on the SDMB, per **TubaDiva** ā€™s dictum. > > If youā€™d like, I will personally go over to Facebook and beat up some people for you instead. I HAD completely forgotten about the debt! Youā€™re so honest to remind me. Beating people upon Facebookā€¦hmmā€¦ šŸ˜‰ > [@DrDeth](#): > > One other thing that will help this fine book move up slightly in the rankings is for us SDMBers to all put it on our ā€œwish listā€, even if we already have a copy or canā€™t afford to buy one. > > ā€œHelpfulā€ votes to the good reviews will also help a little- assuming that you, indeed, do find the review helpful, of course. > > Wealthier SDMBers might ask local libraries if theyā€™d accept copies _for circulation_, and buy some. Thank you for these suggestions. > [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I will be at the Roseland NJ public library tomorrow night at 7 p.m. to speak about the book. > > [http://www.rfplnj.org/?q=content%2Fvaccine-author-speak-library-monday-1119](http://www.rfplnj.org/?q=content%2Fvaccine-author-speak-library-monday-1119) > > Please come and meet me if you can. > > šŸ™‚ Youā€™ll be amazing. > [@EmilyG](#): > > Iā€™m still thinking of requesting this book for my local library. Iā€™ll try to do it when I get the chance. Thanks for your support! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/144 "2012-11-19T14:45:43Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > Iā€™m still thinking of requesting this book for my local library. Iā€™ll try to do it when I get the chance. Our library system has 3 copies. Iā€™ve requested a reserved copy for local pickup. ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2012, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/145 "2012-11-20T19:15:19Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Thatā€™s fantastic. > > Booklist gave the book a very nice review. > > The only odd thing about the review is she asserts we didnā€™t provide an index. I assure anyone who wants to read it, the book does indeed have an index! The reviewer likely received an Advanced Reader Copy (ARC), which is essentially a proof copy sent out to reviewers, purchasing agents, etc. well in advance of actual printing, and which may be missing final changes such as an index. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/146 "2013-01-02T23:27:17Z")
Iā€™ll be on this radio program tonight at 9 pm EST: > **[Parenting With Playdate Planet - How Can We Return Joy and Purpose to...](https://webtalkradio.net/internet-talk-radio/2013/07/15/parenting-with-playdate-planet-071513/)** > > WebTalkRadio is your source for expert, curated podcast content ... on demand! The host has engaged an anti-vaccine idiot as well alas. > **[Facebook - log in or sign up](https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Markus-Heinze/398860120171153?fref=ts)** > > Log into Facebook to start sharing and connecting with your friends, family, and people you know. Heinze self published some dreck on Amazon. He has a poor little daughter who has been diagnosed with type I diabetes. Itā€™s unfortunate that heā€™s under the delusion her dreadful illness was caused by the hep b vaccine rather than a combination of genetics and other factors. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/147 "2013-01-03T03:15:59Z")
**LavenderBlue** , I hope they at least have the idiot on before you. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2013, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/148 "2013-01-03T04:06:30Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > **LavenderBlue** , I hope they at least have the idiot on before you. It was an interactive format where we talked to each other. I mostly feel sorry for him. Heā€™s clearly dealing with a terrible disease in a beloved child and trying to make sense of it. His response over and over and again was essentially look at the research. I hope he moves past the anti-vax websites and into some real research and some really true passionate help for his daughter grounded in authentic research rather than quackery. His poor little girl certainly deserves that. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/149 "2013-01-09T23:44:53Z")
Whoa. Now thereā€™s [an anti-vax kidsā€™ book](http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/anti_vaccine_book_tells_kids_to_embrace_measles/). ā˜¹ ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/150 "2013-01-09T23:54:25Z")
Thatā€™s revolting. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/151 "2013-01-10T19:02:00Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Whoa. Now thereā€™s [an anti-vax kidsā€™ book](http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/anti_vaccine_book_tells_kids_to_embrace_measles/). ā˜¹ Efforts are being made to chase after her. Iā€™m against censorship. Iā€™m not in favor of giving every nut a platform. [Hereā€™s](http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/pearson-australia-group-angus-and-robertson-and-bookworld-end-sales-of-melanie-s-marvellous-measles-in-any-forum-2) a petition urging publishers not to go near it. Itā€™s self published so that should be a nearly automatic indication that the book does not deserve access to readers. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/152 "2013-01-11T02:12:43Z")
A very large vendor has removed the book for sale in Australia: > [@](#): > > [http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health-fitness/controversial-anti-vaccination-book-removed-from-sale/story-fneuzlbd-1226551911539](http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health-fitness/controversial-anti-vaccination-book-removed-from-sale/story-fneuzlbd-1226551911539) > > AUSTRALIAā€™S largest online bookstore will no longer sell a book that promotes the ā€œmarvellousā€ benefits of measles. I think we can call this a victory for sanity and common sense. ---
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/153 "2013-01-11T02:50:23Z")
One of my facebook friends keeps posting anti-vax garbage. Arrgh. Iā€™ve been busy, but I still intend to request that book for the local library. ( **LavenderBlue** ā€™s book!) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/154 "2013-01-13T16:17:21Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Efforts are being made to chase after her. Iā€™m against censorship. Iā€™m not in favor of giving every nut a platform. > > [Hereā€™s](http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/pearson-australia-group-angus-and-robertson-and-bookworld-end-sales-of-melanie-s-marvellous-measles-in-any-forum-2) a petition urging publishers not to go near it. Itā€™s self published so that should be a nearly automatic indication that the book does not deserve access to readers. The reviews on [amazon.uk are a riot](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Melanies-Marvelous-Measles-Stephanie-Messenger/dp/1466938897/) - even the 5 star ones. Thereā€™s only one supporting one that I can see and thatā€™s an appeal to pity for the author whose kid died and she blames MMR vaccine ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/155 "2013-01-13T20:59:06Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > The reviews on [amazon.uk are a riot](http://www.amazon.co.uk/Melanies-Marvelous-Measles-Stephanie-Messenger/dp/1466938897/) - even the 5 star ones. Thereā€™s only one supporting one that I can see and thatā€™s an appeal to pity for the author whose kid died and she blames MMR vaccine At least Messenger is getting publicity. A [previous antivax book](http://www.amazon.com/Vaccination-Roulette-Experiences-risks-alternatives/dp/B000L9YNGM) she co-authored with Meryl Dorey has a grand total of one (one-star) review (act now, only two copies left on Amazon at $192 apiece). ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/156 "2013-01-16T03:58:05Z")
Wherein I recently pwned [an anti-vax idiot](http://webtalkradio.net/internet-talk-radio/2013/01/14/parenting-with-playdate-planet-the-vaccination-debate/) on a podcast. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/157 "2013-01-24T19:44:39Z")
Iā€™m a little late with this, but apparently there was a small error in LBā€™s book, and the anti-vax crowd went [utterly apeshit](http://thepoxesblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/one-error-that-every-anti-vaccine.html) ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/158 "2013-01-24T20:24:08Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > Iā€™m a little late with this, but apparently there was a small error in LBā€™s book, and the anti-vax crowd went [utterly apeshit](http://thepoxesblog.blogspot.com/2012/12/one-error-that-every-anti-vaccine.html) Wow. Some people have way, way, WAY too much time on their hands. What a wackjob that lady is with the two Facebook pages about this book. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/159 "2013-01-25T02:41:46Z")
I swear my next writing project is going to the most frivolous historical fiction imaginable. It gets a litle tiring constantly being called a baby-killing-Nazi-pharmashill. Bring on the parasols and the princesses! The tiaras and the teacups. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631/160 "2013-01-25T11:48:12Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I swear my next writing project is going to the most frivolous historical fiction imaginable. It gets a litle tiring constantly being called a baby-killing-Nazi-pharmashill. Bring on the parasols and the princesses! The tiaras and the teacups. Oh, go ahead and set feminism back all those years, why donā€™t youā€¦šŸ˜› [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-book-by-two-dopers-the-truth-about-vaccines/631631.md?page=9)