# New Chick Tract: Mean Momma

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 14, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672 "2011-10-14T20:55:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![code\_grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@code\_grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/code_grey)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/41 "2011-10-17T12:24:30Z")

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truly I say unto you, this \*\*\*\* of a lady will be [eaten last](http://jackchick.wordpress.com/2009/07/08/chick-parody-who-will-be-eaten-first/)! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/42 "2011-10-17T14:13:46Z")

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> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#):
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> What, exactly, were they expecting the _Mayor_ to do about her? It is not like he can round up a posse and run her out on a rail.

Well, he has “Sheriff John”. Look at him in the “3 months later” panel, with his creepy single bead of sweat. The guy could freeze the blood of John Wayne Gacy. If Mean Momma can stand up to Sheriff John, she’s a badass babe indeed.

> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#):
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> It sure looks like the same guy, but if it is, he combed his hair and put on a jacket, shirt, and tie between the two panels.

Hmm, I hadn’t noticed that. So he thinks it’s worth dressing up to recruit Pastor John, but a sleeveless T is fine for the town meeting. This town is weird.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/43 "2011-10-17T14:33:42Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> I’m thinking this was inspired by the Book of Job although obviously Petunia is rather less righteous…

Obviously, and the point is rather backwards. Job was tortured in order to test his faith and turn him away from God. Petunia’s trials are meant to turn her to God. I do think that someone like Petunia would in fact rail against an unjust God for taking her three children instead of dedicating her life to Him.

And I do agree that most people I know who are like Petunia tend to be Evangelical Christians, at least ostensibly.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/44 "2011-10-17T14:42:52Z")

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What kind of a place deals with an abusive parent with a preacher? Where is child protective services? Shouldn’t the children be taken away? How come they weren’t when daddy got arrested and the problems came out?

And why am I looking for logic in a Chick Tract?

True story: A devout Catholic hands out anti-abortion Chick tracts in front of my town’s Planned Parenthood. But she told me she doesn’t hand out the anti-Catholic ones.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/45 "2011-10-17T15:14:53Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> Could Jack T. Chick be an alter ego of the Perfect Master?
> 
> Some questions should be left unanswered…😉

Chick is the anti-Cecil. In order to keep the cosmic balance, the champion of the fight against ignorance must be balanced by the champion of the promotion of ignorance. Should the two ever meet they would vanish in a puff of existential angst.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/46 "2011-10-17T16:04:47Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Chick is the anti-Cecil. In order to keep the cosmic balance, the champion of the fight against ignorance must be balanced by the champion of the promotion of ignorance. Should the two ever meet they would vanish in a puff of existential angst.

I am thinking that Cecil would slay Chick, but then be killed by the deadly black acid spewing from the corpse, thus ushering in a new, gentler era.

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**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/47 "2011-10-17T16:54:41Z")

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God kills children to make a point all the time in the Bible. How are the “moderate Christians” going to condemn this while pretending they can maintain the religion as a whole?

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**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/48 "2011-10-17T17:24:33Z")

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> [@CitizenPained](#):
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> I thought the whole thing was a joke that was written to make fun of evangelicals until I saw the end - it really IS a tract that real live people print out and distribute?!

Hey, the first time I saw a Chick Tract, many years ago, I though that it was a parody, as well.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/49 "2011-10-17T18:24:24Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> I don’t know which is weirder–that the badass guy in the wife-beater T-shirt, covered with tattoos, recommends a pastor “because he’s a man of God”, or that the when the pastor asks for prayer the guy who recommended him thinks, “That’s stupid.”

> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> It sure looks like the same guy, but if it is, he combed his hair and put on a jacket, shirt, and tie between the two panels. Maybe what he thinks is stupid is the punctuation in “Lot’s of prayer!”

> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> Hmm, I hadn’t noticed that. So he thinks it’s worth dressing up to recruit Pastor John, but a sleeveless T is fine for the town meeting. This town is weird.

I’m going to have to step in.  
Panel 17 is the first panel showing the town meeting (has 8:30 PM in the top left corner.)  
Panels 17, 18 and 19 are all during the town meeting. Tattooed wife-beater-T-shirt-wearing guy suggests to ask the pastor to intervene (panels 17 and 18). In panel 19, another guy criticizes either the prayer request or the pastor’s punctuation, saying “That’s stupid”. But snarky guy in panel 19 is **not** the same guy as the tattooed guy from panels 17 and 18. He might have similar facial features but it can’t be the same one. Tattooed wife-beater-T-shirt-wearing guy is a “good” guy because he suggests that the pastor help them. The guy saying that “Lot’s of prayer” is stupid is a “bad” guy because he opposes the power of prayer.

Someone on the side of Good in panels 17 and 18 would not be switching to Evil in panel 19 unless we had seen Satan tempting him. Ergo they are different people.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/50 "2011-10-17T18:30:36Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Dear Og, no, people DON’T print them out!
> 
> They buy the tracts in bundles and distribute them. Seriously. The tracts are available in several languages, and in some cases don’t have any text at all (for people who wish to witness to illiterates). Back when there were public phones, I used to find them on the little shelves. I still find them on the counters of public women’s rooms. And Jack encourages giving out the tracts for Halloween, though he advises giving a piece of candy with the tracts. And I’ve seen people leave tracts as a tip in a restaurant, instead of money. However, Jack, in his infinite kindness, has made certain tracts available for embedding. For free!

When I worked at a library, we were constantly finding these things on the bookshelves and stuffed between the pages of books–particularly the science books about evolution. ☹

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/51 "2011-10-17T18:32:40Z")

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> [@StusBlues](#):
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> [Submitted for your approval](http://chick.com/reading/tracts/1068/1068_01.asp): Yahweh kills (or arranges for the death of) three children to spite a sociopathic mother–who, it is implied, is rewarded for ruining their lives with eternal salvation.
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> This may not be as bad as the one about the child molester who goes unpunished, but it’s disturbingly close.

Really, really weird. Somehow I misread “Yahweh” as “Cthulhu” in this post. Gotta be some kind of Freudian slip.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/52 "2011-10-17T18:39:13Z")

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> [@Lok](#):
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> Far too many people really believe they are receiving the wisdom of God from Chick tracts.

The demographic targeted for these tracts is the people who buy and distribute them, not the long suffering public.

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**Author:** ![PhiloVance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e19adc/32.png) [@PhiloVance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhiloVance)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/53 "2011-10-17T18:52:10Z")

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Hey, they’re only 16 cents; that’s cheap. In 100 years as an antique they may be worth a quarter or so. 😉

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**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/54 "2011-10-17T19:23:36Z")

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> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#):
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> I’m going to have to step in.  
> Panel 17 is the first panel showing the town meeting (has 8:30 PM in the top left corner.)  
> Panels 17, 18 and 19 are all during the town meeting. Tattooed wife-beater-T-shirt-wearing guy suggests to ask the pastor to intervene (panels 17 and 18). In panel 19, another guy criticizes either the prayer request or the pastor’s punctuation, saying “That’s stupid”. But snarky guy in panel 19 is **not** the same guy as the tattooed guy from panels 17 and 18. He might have similar facial features but it can’t be the same one. Tattooed wife-beater-T-shirt-wearing guy is a “good” guy because he suggests that the pastor help them. The guy saying that “Lot’s of prayer” is stupid is a “bad” guy because he opposes the power of prayer.
> 
> Someone on the side of Good in panels 17 and 18 would not be switching to Evil in panel 19 unless we had seen Satan tempting him. Ergo they are different people.

I think you’re right, they’re meant to be different people. The guy in panel 19 actually looks a lot like the atheist professor in [Big Daddy](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp).

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/55 "2011-10-17T20:00:28Z")

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God is great. See how he killed those hooligan kids? Takin’ out the trash! He’s like Batman without the gadgets.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/56 "2011-10-17T20:14:03Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> Somehow I misread “Yahweh” as “Cthulhu”

Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/57 "2011-10-17T21:19:47Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> When I worked at a library, we were constantly finding these things on the bookshelves and stuffed between the pages of books–particularly the science books about evolution. ☹

I wish I could say that I’m surprised at this. I’m not.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/58 "2011-10-17T22:00:12Z")

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I thought nothing could be more terrifying than the number of look-alike ugly people in this tract, or the horrifying theological message. Then I read at the bottom:

> [@](#):
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> The best time to start life-long habits is when we are young. And what better habit to start than sharing our faith in Jesus Christ? Since Chick tracts make it easy for even young children to witness, give your kids some Chick tracts and get them started. They are definitely not too young.

I will now have nightmares of brainwashed urchins booby-trapping my library, condo lobby, and local restaurants. Why do I open these threads? **WHY???**

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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/59 "2011-10-17T23:15:06Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> I thought nothing could be more terrifying than the number of look-alike ugly people in this tract, or the horrifying theological message. Then I read at the bottom:I will now have nightmares of brainwashed urchins booby-trapping my library, condo lobby, and local restaurants. Why do I open these threads? **WHY???**

It’s not over yet.

Wait till you see your PM box.

BWAHAHAHA!

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-chick-tract-mean-momma/599672/60 "2011-10-17T23:36:34Z")

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> [@user\_hostile](#):
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> BWAHAHAHA!

Don’t you mean HAW HAW HAW?

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