# New Christie scandal

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 22, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033 "2014-05-22T21:06:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/21 "2014-06-25T14:39:48Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> His reforming of Louisiana’s corrupt political culture. We need some of that in DC. His jobs record is solid as well. Louisiana has stayed consistently below the national average in unemployment under his watch.

As a Louisiana boy who maintains ties to many in the state, I’ll dispute these claims, but not here.

Do we also need his disregard for science and his fundamentalist social policies?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/22 "2014-06-25T15:37:45Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> Made me laugh. A+

> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> …Well played, my friend. [🙂](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Christy_Minstrels)

You guys are \* old!\*

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/23 "2014-06-26T04:14:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> As a Louisiana boy who maintains ties to many in the state, I’ll dispute these claims, but not here.
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> Do we also need his disregard for science and his fundamentalist social policies?

Has the Obama administration been a paragon of virtue in regards to science it doesn’t like?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/24 "2014-06-26T06:50:14Z")

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Dunno. Got an example?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/25 "2014-06-26T07:17:25Z")

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Keystone. The delays have been entirely influenced by politics. The science is clear: 1) Natural gas is cleaner than oil, and 2) Pipelines are the safest form of transportation for natural gas.

I’m not worried though. The same demographics which doom the GOP also doom the limousine liberals who currently have outsized influence in the Democratic Party. Once the working class again becomes the preeminent force, there will be no debate over things like drilling or building pipelines.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/26 "2014-06-26T07:52:25Z")

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> **[Keystone Pipeline](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline)**
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> The Keystone Pipeline System is an oil pipeline system in Canada and the United States, commissioned in 2010 and owned by TC Energy and, as of March 2020, the Government of Alberta. It runs from the Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin in Alberta to refineries in Illinois and Texas, and also to oil tank farms and an oil pipeline distribution center in Cushing, Oklahoma.
> TransCanada Keystone Pipeline GP Ltd, abbreviated here as Keystone, operates four phases of the project. In 2013, the first two...

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> The Keystone Pipeline System is an _oil_ pipeline system in Canada and the United States…

(emphasis added)

Other than that…

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/27 "2014-06-26T07:55:57Z")

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Oh wait, that’s the one from the oil sands in Alberta, right? He’s still ignoring the science.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/28 "2014-06-26T09:04:38Z")

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Obama has been far better on science than Jindal. Obama has not made efforts to introduce pseudoscience into the educational system – Jindal has.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/29 "2014-06-26T12:13:07Z")

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> [@Shayna](#):
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> When are people going to wake up and realize the Republican Party does not want to cut spending, they only want to cut spending on and take money from middle and poor America and give it to their wealthy donors?

When are you libs going to stop spewing that bullshit over and over and start thinking for yourselves?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/30 "2014-06-26T12:38:58Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You guys are \* old!\*

Sure am! Pot, kettle. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/31 "2014-06-26T12:40:40Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> When are you libs going to stop spewing that bullshit over and over and start thinking for yourselves?

Too much bother.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/32 "2014-06-26T12:42:16Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Keystone. The delays have been entirely influenced by politics. The science is clear: 1) Natural gas is cleaner than oil, and 2) Pipelines are the safest form of transportation for natural gas.

Speaking of GOP science, what do points 1 and 2 have to do with Keystone? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/33 "2014-06-27T19:53:39Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Reporting for move to Cafe Society, wait, nevermind, this is “New Christie **scandal** ”.

> [@elucidator](#):
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> You’re thinking of the new Christie mistrial.

I’d give y’all the thread win if anyone but us old farts knew what you were talking about.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/34 "2014-06-27T20:23:21Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Keystone. The delays have been entirely influenced by politics. The science is clear: 1) Natural gas is cleaner than oil, and 2) Pipelines are the safest form of transportation for natural gas.

Keystone is an **oil** pipeline.

> [@adaher](#):
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> I’m not worried though. The same demographics which doom the GOP also doom the limousine liberals who currently have outsized influence in the Democratic Party. Once the working class **again** becomes the preeminent force, there will be no debate over things like drilling or building pipelines.

(Emphasis added.) What makes you think that? Limousine liberals are merely the social-liberal wing of the 1%, and the 1% is not threatened by demographics. The working class is not the “preeminent force” – **and never was** – for reasons having nothing to do with its numbers.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/35 "2014-06-27T20:24:40Z")

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> [@HelenGawn](#):
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> I’d give y’all the thread win if anyone but us old farts knew what you were talking about.

[Christy’s Minstrels?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christy's_Minstrels)

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**Author:** ![A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@A\_nice\_guy\_with\_an\_opinion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A_nice_guy_with_an_opinion)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/36 "2014-06-27T22:38:42Z")

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Call it phony and recycle the hard drive.

No biggie.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/37 "2014-07-04T17:41:31Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Oh wait, that’s the one from the oil sands in Alberta, right?

So, you’re admitting you spouted off about Keystone and people ignoring the science, _without even knowing what Keystone is_.

Damn, you’re a marvel, you are.

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> He’s still ignoring the science.

And I’m sure you say this on a basis that’s just as sound as the points you made about Keystone earlier. 😃

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-christie-scandal/689033/38 "2014-07-04T17:50:07Z")

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Oh, and while I know nobody - really _nobody_ anymore - is talking about Christie and the GOP Presidential nomination, it would be **so** much fun if he won the nomination. The Dems could pretend that Christie’s theme song was Jimmy Fallon’s song (to the tune of “Born to Run”) about being stuck in Christie’s Fort Lee, NJ traffic jam, and come up with slogans like “Vote Christie, so he can do to America what he did to Fort Lee.” It would be a riot.

Of course, what’s _really_ funny is that a number of Republicans are getting so desperate, they’re saying maybe Mitt should run again. Because he’d do _so_ much better against Hillary than he did against Obama. Wonder if he could even manage 47% this time?

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