# "New" Cities in science fiction **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 6, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776 "2019-09-06T08:16:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/1 "2019-09-06T08:16:15Z")
Prompted by the city/colony of New Portland on tbe (pretty lousy) series _Pandora_. Lots of examples out there, let’s make list. (To clarify, it _can_ be a whole planet/moon and not just a city, but if the name you give is _not_ in the form of the word “New” (or other language equivalent, such as “Nova”) followed by the name of an existing real Earth city, then it is off-topic for this thread.) ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/2 "2019-09-06T08:22:59Z")
So, like, New New York is in, but New London and New Crobuzon are out? ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/3 "2019-09-06T08:23:36Z")
New New York, from Futurama. The completely different New New York, from Doctor Who. Neo Tokyo, from AKIRA. (The first and third are, granted, the original cities rebuilt, but…they fit the spirit, I would say.) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/4 "2019-09-06T08:25:21Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > So, like, New New York is in, but New London and New Crobuzon are out? Why would New London be out? ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/5 "2019-09-06T08:32:02Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Why would New London be out? Real city. Though there may be a fictional New London as well? OK, in an old Tex Murphy video game he lives in New San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![DerNils](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerNils](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerNils)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/6 "2019-09-06T08:50:01Z")
“Steelheart” by Brandon Sanderson has Newcago, which is short for New Chicago. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/7 "2019-09-06T09:39:14Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > Real city. Ahah…never heard of it, before, obviously. (Checking, there strangely doesn’t seem to be any significant fictional New London.) ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/8 "2019-09-06T10:10:54Z")
New Chicago in Buck Rogers ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/9 "2019-09-06T10:33:51Z")
Seems to me that there could be more than one New London, each named after the original London in England. And a New New London. _Doctor Who_ got carried away with this and at one point the Doctor and companion visited New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New York. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/10 "2019-09-06T11:22:38Z")
Pretty sure they only visited New New York (twice), though the Doctor mentioned New (x♾) York during the visit. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/11 "2019-09-06T11:54:22Z")
“New New York” was the short version of the name of the city on New Earth - the full name had the fifteen “new’s” but it was awkward to say so everyone abbreviated it. So it’s all the same city. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/12 "2019-09-06T12:00:25Z")
Cyberpunk 2020 (role playing game) had Night City in the Free State of Northern California voted worse place to live in America in 2077. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/13 "2019-09-06T12:13:33Z")
The Mote in God’s Eye The early setting is in orbit around the planet of New Chicago. It has one more, Evanston. The origin of the moon’s name is obscure. ---
**Author:** ![Banksiaman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banksiaman/32/3334_2.png) [@Banksiaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banksiaman)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/14 "2019-09-06T12:25:16Z")
Not a specific sci-fi story but a collective modern popular fantasy, the secret Nazi base in Antarctica that none of us know about is sometimes called New Berlin [or at least that’s the name that it’s not shown on the secret maps we have never seen]. More [here](http://mentalfloss.com/article/30249/hitler-ice-did-nazis-have-secret-antarctic-fortress). ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/15 "2019-09-06T13:21:20Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New York. The town so nice, they named it … fifteen times? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/16 "2019-09-06T13:29:47Z")
[New Moscow.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Moscow) ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/17 "2019-09-06T13:42:56Z")
_Star Trek_ has a [New Berlin](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Berlin) on the moon. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/18 "2019-09-06T15:14:00Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > Cyberpunk 2020 (role playing game) had Night City in the Free State of Northern California voted worse place to live in America in 2077. Aaaand, the first person to provide an answer [utterly unrelated to the OP](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868590) even though I was very explicit about the topic. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/19 "2019-09-06T15:27:31Z")
Nothing will ever beat Cartman and a pack of sea otters riding into [New New Hampshire](https://southpark.cc.com/clips/ie7ntx/museum-of-technology) on a flock of ostriches. Sound the nafferty! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/20 "2019-09-06T15:34:21Z")
There is a New Vanuatu (settlement) in the Mars Trilogy but Vanuatu is a country not a city. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776.md?page=2)