# "New" Cities in science fiction

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 6, 2019, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776 "2019-09-06T08:16:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/41 "2019-09-07T18:17:52Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Aaaand, the first person to provide an answer [utterly unrelated to the OP](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868590) even though I was very explicit about the topic.

So instead of just ignoring it you felt the need to be an asshole about it. God bless you, Darren. You’re not the hero we deserve but you’re the hero we need.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/42 "2019-09-07T19:27:59Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> So instead of just ignoring it you felt the need to be an asshole about it. God bless you, Darren. You’re not the hero we deserve but you’re the hero we need.

Is it too much to ask for someone to _actually read the subject of the thread_ before responding?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/43 "2019-09-08T01:57:49Z")

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**[Moderating]**

That’ll be a Warning, **Odesio**. Don’t call anyone an asshole in CS.

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/44 "2019-09-08T13:16:36Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> New Chicago in Buck Rogers

Also, New Manhattan and New Phoenix.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/45 "2019-09-08T17:42:58Z")

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I was just re-watching an episode of Babylon 5 and there was a passing reference to a New Vegas.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cities-in-science-fiction/839776/46 "2019-09-11T13:28:31Z")

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In Joe Haldeman’s _Worlds_ trilogy, New New York is the largest human offworld colony, built inside a mined, hollowed-out asteroid and moved into Earth orbit.

> [@KneadToKnow](#):
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> _Star Trek_ has a [New Berlin](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Berlin) on the moon.

Some other _ST_ examples:

> **[New Brooklyn IX](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Brooklyn_IX)**
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> New Brooklyn IX was the ninth planet in its star system. In 2370, New Brooklyn IX was listed on the Deep Space 9 arrival roster as the point of departure for the USS Yosemite. (DS9: "Whispers", production art)

> **[New France colony](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_France_colony)**
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> New France was a Federation colony near Deep Space 9. In 2369, Jadzia Dax ordered the computer of the space station Deep Space 9 to create a historical database for all known wormhole activity. The computer requested indication for time parameters,...

> **[New Gaul](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Gaul)**
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> New Gaul was an inhabited planet. Miranda Vigo was born here in 2320. (TNG: "Bloodlines")

> **[New Lagos](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Lagos)**
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> New Lagos was a settlement on Beta'Elan Minor. In the 24th century, Keith Rocha was born on stardate 6701.3 in New Lagos. His place of birth was mentioned in his personnel status report, which was accessed by both William T. Riker and Jean-Luc Picard...

> **[New Manhattan](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Manhattan)**
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> New Manhattan was a city on the planet Beth Delta I. Paul Stubbs offered to take Deanna Troi on a tour of the city when he was aboard the USS Enterprise-D in 2366. She turned down his offer, noting that his attitude was practiced and forced, and that...

> **[New Mecca](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Mecca)**
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> New Mecca was a planet. In 2371, Jadzia Dax suggested to Kira Nerys that they go anti-grav sailing across the Great Erg on New Mecca during their planned visit to one of Quark's holosuites. (DS9: "Second Skin")

> **[New Paris](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Paris)**
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> New Paris was an inhabited planet affiliated with the United Federation of Planets. This planet was home for the New Paris colonies and the New Paris Colony Starbase. (TOS: "The Galileo Seven"; TNG-R: "Inheritance") According to Star Trek: Star...

> **[New Sausalito](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Sausalito)**
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> New Sausalito was a hypothetical Earth colony. When visiting Paraagan II in 2152, Captain Archer and Commander Tucker discussed whether twenty years later there would be colonies out that far from Earth with Human children growing up on New...

> **[New Seattle](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Seattle)**
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> New Seattle was a city on Penthara IV. When the planet experienced a dust cloud after an asteroid impact in 2368, New Seattle reported a cloud depth of twelve kilometers and two tropical rivers starting to freeze. (TNG: "A Matter Of Time") According...

> **[New Sydney](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Sydney)**
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> New Sydney was the primary inhabited planet in the Sappora system. It was an independent planet where Starfleet had no jurisdiction. It was also the birthplace of Ezri Tigan. (DS9: "Honor Among Thieves", "Prodigal Daughter", "Field of Fire") The...

> **[New Vegas colony](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/New_Vegas_colony)**
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> New Vegas Colony was a colony. In 2328, this was the point of embarkation for passengers traveling to Beta III, System C-111 via commercial transport. Naren Shankar traveled there on the SS Manoa, Brian Vogt traveled on the SS Kogin, and Dawn...

They did that a lot. \*\*terentii \*\*mentioned the ill-fated New Providence colony already.

> [@squeegee](#):
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> How do the locals pronounce them? Reminds me of Cairo and Cuba, Illinois, pronounced “care-oh” and “koobah”.

The first sounded more like “KAY-ro” to me when I was there.

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