# New Coffee Maker - this thing is unbelieveable! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 2, 2007, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801 "2007-09-02T12:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/21 "2007-09-03T13:29:23Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] I love coffee, and drink it every day… but remind me again why I need a $169 coffee maker? [/QUOTE] I can’t help you there - my $20 French Press turns out perfect coffee every time. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/22 "2007-09-03T13:31:05Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] I love coffee, and drink it every day… but remind me again why I need a $169 coffee maker? [/QUOTE] You don’t. But you might want one, if you’re really into good coffee and have some spare cash lying around. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/23 "2007-09-03T13:31:18Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] I love coffee, and drink it every day… but remind me again why I need a $169 coffee maker? [/QUOTE] Don’t get me started. I’m not happy about the fact that I’ve just been separated from that hard earned $180 by a coffee addiction. If you were in the area, I’d invite you over for a cup. You might understand shortly thereafter. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/24 "2007-09-03T17:58:33Z")
I gotta tell you all that since my recent discovery of cold-brewed coffee, all you need is a bowl, coffee grounds, and a strainer. Cold-brewed coffee is the best damn coffee I’ve ever had in my 60 years on the planet. And since our niece introduced us to High Desert Roasters “Pinon Passion”, we’re totally hooked. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/25 "2007-09-03T18:00:47Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] I gotta tell you all that since my recent discovery of cold-brewed coffee, all you need is a bowl, coffee grounds, and a strainer. Cold-brewed coffee is the best damn coffee I’ve ever had in my 60 years on the planet. And since our niece introduced us to High Desert Roasters “Pinon Passion”, we’re totally hooked. [/QUOTE] In what way is it better? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/26 "2007-09-03T19:32:20Z")
[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion] In what way is it better? [/QUOTE] When coffee is boiled or steamed, some of the more subtle flavors disappear. We only drink it iced nowadays. The undertones of chocolate, caramel and berry flavors is pretty intense. The downside to cold brewing is that you need to let it brew for at least overnight, if not 24 hours. Grind about a cup of beans for 4 cups water. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/27 "2007-09-03T19:38:57Z")
[QUOTE=Shirley Ujest] **Athena** the entire image of a coffee snob in the UP is just too much for my mind to wrap around. [/QUOTE] Agreed. The way she’s talking about it, it’s like I expect her to be from Ann Arbor or Troy or something. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/28 "2007-09-03T19:41:32Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] When coffee is boiled or steamed, some of the more subtle flavors disappear. We only drink it iced nowadays. The undertones of chocolate, caramel and berry flavors is pretty intense. The downside to cold brewing is that you need to let it brew for at least overnight, if not 24 hours. Grind about a cup of beans for 4 cups water. [/QUOTE] Oh, so you don’t heat it afterwards–you just drink it straight out of the 'fridge? ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/29 "2007-09-03T19:47:10Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] Agreed. The way she’s talking about it, it’s like I expect her to be from Ann Arbor or Troy or something. [/QUOTE] Oh come on you two. It’s not like the UP is Timbuktu; we can order just about any type of food or drink, the dogsled teams are very efficient. Seriously, though, there’s a university here, and a fair bit of tourism. I can think of a lot of small towns that are way worse off than where I live. It’s not all pasties and cheap beer! ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/30 "2007-09-03T20:06:38Z")
You know, the UP is physically connected to Wisconsin. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/31 "2007-09-03T20:24:16Z")
Have you tried it with Kopi Liwak beans? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2007, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/32 "2007-09-03T20:41:01Z")
[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion] Oh, so you don’t heat it afterwards–you just drink it straight out of the 'fridge? [/QUOTE] It never makes it to the fridge. Brew it on the counter and it’s gone in two days max. Haven’t tried heating it; I suppose it would just be like brewed coffee then. ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/33 "2007-09-04T17:00:44Z")
Bud Light and Folgers is just fine for me thanks. Not together of course. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2007, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/34 "2007-09-04T21:32:49Z")
[QUOTE=Chefguy] When coffee is boiled or steamed, some of the more subtle flavors disappear. We only drink it iced nowadays. The undertones of chocolate, caramel and berry flavors is pretty intense. The downside to cold brewing is that you need to let it brew for at least overnight, if not 24 hours. Grind about a cup of beans for 4 cups water. [/QUOTE] What’s the technique here? How coarse is the grind? And what kind of contraption do you have set up? I’ve been wanting to try this, since I generally only drink iced coffee, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/35 "2007-09-05T02:22:00Z")
[QUOTE=JSexton] What’s the technique here? How coarse is the grind? And what kind of contraption do you have set up? I’ve been wanting to try this, since I generally only drink iced coffee, anyway. [/QUOTE] It’s a very complicated contraption called a 4-cup measuring cup. I grind the coffee like I would for french press, which is fairly coarse. Dump the grinds in the cup, fill with water, stir well, cover with a bit of plastic wrap to keep the dust out of it, and let it sit for 12-24 hours. Then strain the coffee through a very fine sieve, not forgetting to put a bowl or something underneath, and Bob’s your uncle. By the way, my niece the pilot just sent us a pound of 100% Kona from Hawaii. Eat your hearts out. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/36 "2007-09-05T03:01:03Z")
Does anyone else here use an iced-ted machine? I got one because I figured it was cheaper than buying Snapple or 2-liters of Lipton. ---
**Author:** ![BiblioCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@BiblioCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BiblioCat)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/37 "2007-09-05T03:09:08Z")
I never bothered with one of those iced-tea machines, because I figured it was just another gadget. I brew my own tea in a tea pot and just put it in the fridge. ---
**Author:** ![akira5822](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@akira5822](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akira5822)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/38 "2007-09-05T03:47:40Z")
[QUOTE=ivylass] I’m sorry, you’ll get my French press when you can pry it from my cold dead fingers. [/QUOTE] Amen!!! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/39 "2007-09-05T03:58:34Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] I’ve got a Grind-and-Brew (but no thermal carafe), and no way I’m going back. Coffee is way better when it hasn’t been sitting around as grounds for very long. I personally don’t see the importance of a thermal carafe anyway. That’s what microwaves are for. Once the coffee is brewed, I pour myself my first cup, then turn the burner off. Coffee that hasn’t been sitting around on the burner will nuke back to life quite well. [/QUOTE] First, I have one also, and waking up to find freshly ground and brewed coffee in the kitchen is as close to nirvana as I ever get - well, almost. And I like lots of buttons. The coffee at work gets brewed into thermal cafes, after being ground. (Grade Z beans, alas.) It’s usually pretty good, except when you get some just past the hot stage, are too needy for caffeine to notice there is no steam coming from the cup, and take that first sip of cold coffee. :eek: Microwave works fine. ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801/40 "2007-09-05T04:55:26Z")
It always tickles me to wander through places like Williams-Sonoma and see the lines of coffee makers from $100 on up to near $3,000 (for the push-a-button-do-it-all machines), and know some schmuck with more money than sense [present OP excepted **Dudley**] is gonna drop as much coin on a coffee making gadget that you need a training class to operate than I did on my first three cars and first motorcycle. God bless America. For my money, I’ll stick with the 20 year old Bunn at the firehouse that makes damn near the best coffee in the state (save for the Original Pancake House, o’course, oh, and the White Palace diner) no matter what beans you put in it. I will admit though to a bit of coffee snobbery in absolutely digging Caribou’s Obsidian. [http://www.cariboucoffee.com/shop/detail.asp?c=1&p=263](http://www.cariboucoffee.com/shop/detail.asp?c=1&p=263) Enjoy Dude. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-coffee-maker-this-thing-is-unbelieveable/417801.md?page=3)