# New Comic Books for April 20/21, 2005 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 21, 2005, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361 "2005-04-21T03:27:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/21 "2005-04-21T20:29:05Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > I guess I’ll have to learn to hone my june geek-fu against pretenders like **Big Bad Voodoo Lou** and **CandidGamera.** Feh. > > Great. I used to spar with a hellhound. Now I’m down to some random religious nut hougan and a punstruck geek with a Penzance fixation. :: Terrance Stamp in SUPERMAN II :: _Is there no one left on this board with the wit to even challenge me???_ > > ( **WonK, Lou** and **Canny** – I keed, I\* keed\*.) Hey, I’m no religious nut! I’m a _hipster doofus,_ Daddy-O! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/22 "2005-04-21T20:35:28Z")
Oh, yeah – like THAT gets you off the hook. **“Big Bad Beatnik Lou.”** You’re gonna bore me to death reading Ginsberg and Sanders, now, I suppose. Bah! \>Insert smiley icon \< ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/23 "2005-04-21T20:35:54Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > **Fenris** , you’re leaving? > > What the hell-- our semi-annual face-off is coming up in August! Man, I was ready for you! Look, see – I got a Baffle Ray Gun. I trained with this whole stack of Mort Weisinger-era SUPERMAN comics to get inside your head! I’ve got a whole platoon of easily damaged Virtual Reality robots with the exploding Logic Inhibitors and uploaded with the latest W32 series computer viruses! Dude… I bought _minions_. > \< snip\> > Great. I used to spar with a hellhound. Now I’m down to some random religious nut hougan and a punstruck geek with a Penzance fixation. :: Terrance Stamp in SUPERMAN II :: _Is there no one left on this board with the wit to even challenge me???_ O’course, you could also come and challenge me on new turf–I hang out on the Unaboard most of the time–unless you’re scared to challenge me on my home turf, rather than neutral ground, of course! (Although…hmm…if you join, it’ll again become neutral turf. There’s a flaw in my master plan.) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/24 "2005-04-21T20:47:26Z")
Sigh. I’ve made it a point to avoid internet message boards that share a disturbing similarity with Ted Kaczynski’s _nom de guerre._ But I may drag my sorry ass over there in August. _Feh,_ I say.\* Feh, Bah\* and _Bleccch._ ---
**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/25 "2005-04-21T20:49:01Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > …And how does living in the Avengers Mansion (fine, “Avenger’s Tower”) jibe with Peter’s desire to keep a secret ID? What’s his cover story?.. Strictly speaking, it’s Stark Tower, and it’s not public knowledge that the Avengers operate from there. To the world at large, it’s a business/residential building. No doubt rent is going to be on the high side, but I’m sure there’s no shortage of cover stories available, especially for an old hand like Petey. If I was him, I would say I’m assisting Tony Stark on several ongoing projects and part of the compensation package was on-site accommodations \* and it wouldn’t even be a lie.\* ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/26 "2005-04-21T21:52:15Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > To be blunt, the whole series featured just about every single character out of character at one point or other. Just looking at that specific situation, there were a number of characterization problems. Well, I disagree with the philosophy that taking an hour of memories kills a person, but that’s more a Great Debates issue than a Cafe Society. IC did have some characterization problems - which I acknowledged : > [@Me](#): > > …also deeply, deeply out of character for them - **even moreso than the plain memory wipe**. Behavior modification on Batman seems like two shades beyond the pale even for IC’s “Suddenly Sinister” League. So I’m going to wait and see what the circumstances actually were, before assuming Batman was ‘Brain damaged’. 😛 Lessee, What else - picked up Conan, excellent background issue, I think; Ex Machina, consistently good; Space Ghost - conclusion of the mini, with an announcement that another will follow; Klarion, discussed in the 7 Soldiers thread; Superman #215, wrapping up Azzarello and Lee’s run, and featuring some OMAC-related engineered combatants; LiveWires, which I love to death; Fantastic Four, with it’s new creative team - really a ‘meh’ issue, I’ll probably drop i t again now that Waid’s gone; Birds of Prey - I love to see Black Canary and WildCat work together. Appropriately, the relevant episode of JLU airs this weekend. Invincible - Still one of the best superhero books around; PS 238 - Very funny. That’s it, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/27 "2005-04-21T23:02:36Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > _MIGHT_???! If you were lucky, you _might_. Yeah. Maybe. You know, there’s a new gunslinger in town, Fenris. Maybe he’s even better than you. You better renew, or it’ll be left as ‘might’. Yep. eeeh, who am I kidding. Going to miss you, guy. ---
**Author:** ![Saranga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Saranga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saranga)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/28 "2005-04-22T06:54:24Z")
**Superman: For Tomorrow** has ended. I’m not sure it warrants its own thread so… Am I the only one who REALLY enjoyed the writing on this book? It took a bit of a downturn near the end (I’m chalking it up to rushed writing/editing), but it seems to have gotten poor reviews across the board. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/29 "2005-04-22T22:56:21Z")
**Teen Titans** : Fun stuff. The ending caught me completely off guard, although something like it had to happen as Dr. Light wasn’t in custody during **Countdown**. Perhaps this is the wrong place for it as it is a manga, but I noticed that **Fullmetal Alchemist** is avaiable now. Apparently they are attempting to do the same as **Ruroni Kenshin** and piggie-back off the success of the English translation of television show based on it. Unfortunately, we have to wait until July for the next one, unlike the monthly releases of Kenshin. I say unfortunately with optimism as I have yet to read the manga, but I’m sure it will be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2005, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/30 "2005-04-23T01:24:33Z")
I’m really loving Young Avengers. We learn in this issue that Hulkling is definitely a guy, and his name is Teddy Altman. Maybe his connection to the Avengers is through She-Hulk? Asgardian’s real name, which I forget, doesn’t ring any bells with anybody, but both his parents are MDs, like Donald Blake and Jane Foster. Come to think of it, have we seen Jane Foster recently? Last time I remember seeing her was sometime in the late 70s, long enough ago to have had Thor’s love child and fobbed the baby off on some professional acquaintances. Hmmm… Patriot, interestingly enough, is the grandson of Isaiah Bradley, the black Captain America from THE TRUTH and THE CREW, the one who was heartlessly used like a guinea pig a la the Tuskegee syphilis experiments. Cassie Lang, in spite of Iron Man’s best efforts to discourage her, looks very much at home in that Ant Man costume. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2005, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/31 "2005-04-23T13:51:57Z")
Regarding the woman in your spoiler box, she showed up in the late '80s for a couple of issues, and I think she hung with the Avengers as support staff (a-la that Fabian Stankowitz guy) for a while too. I think it’s a very, VERY bad idea regarding Bucky/Patriot\*'s background. The original series should have been left in “Earth-B” territory. \*I think that name belongs to another company. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2005, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361/32 "2005-04-25T01:27:38Z")
Negative. The Patriot is the third man to wear the Captain America costume (Fourth, if you count the black one) Source: That darn What If that built the retcontinuity of WWII. First, the Spirit of 76 wore it, then he died, so the Patriot put it on. The first Patriot died in the… mmm. 80s. He’s been mentioned since then, now and again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-comic-books-for-april-20-21-2005/300361.md?page=1)