# New Conan Movie

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [August 23, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213 "2005-08-23T01:46:07Z")
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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/1 "2005-08-23T01:46:07Z")

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Apparently, there is going to be a full-length animated feature film of the Conan story _Red Nails_.

[http://www.conan.com/f\_rednails.shtml](http://www.conan.com/f_rednails.shtml)

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> Sherman Oaks, California-based Swordplay Entertainment Inc., has begun principal production on the animated feature film, CONAN: RED NAILS, based on the classic story by the best-selling fantasy author Robert E. Howard, a new 2D/3D animated feature film, targeting a 2006 release on video/DVD. New Line Home Entertainment has acquired all North American distribution rights to the animated feature film.

So, the actual film is being made.  
This is not a “we’re talking about it” thing, this is a go.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/2 "2005-08-23T03:03:06Z")

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A new Conan movie is cool , but animated sucks. :mad:

I kept expecting Conan to exclaim in Red Nails, “What _is it_ with these people?”  
Two factions killing each other in a huge sealed building with the ubiquitous giant snakes eatting folks.  
You’d think they would go to a movie or something.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/3 "2005-08-23T03:12:48Z")

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…and they got Frank Frazetta, right? _ **RIGHT?** _

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### Author: ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/4 "2005-08-23T03:34:32Z")

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I’m such a Conan fan, I already knew about this, and I’ve been torn over it for a while…Red Nails…cool…animated…could suck big hairy donkey balls. _sigh_

What I wouldn’t give for a new, live-action, true to REH Conan movie…

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### Author: ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/5 "2005-08-23T03:38:39Z")

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Hopefully, it will be the BWS version with Red Sonja to take some of the hurt away. I have a feeling it will be more like a loinclothed “For a Few Dollars More.”

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### Author: ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/6 "2005-08-23T12:28:05Z")

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A Conan movie that stuck to the story would be pretty neat. (BTW, **carnivorous** , no snake in RN. I think you’re mixing your Conan stories). I hope the _don’t_ have Red Sonya. She was never in the Conan stories, anyway. And, although the _original_ RS was pretty cool and even believable, she quickly morphed into a Hot Babe in a Silver-Dollar Bikini, which might be nice to look at, but is pretty damned imptrobable and inconvenient (you try sneaking up on someone in a silver-dollar bra that doesn’t even have the decency to protect your vitals).  
The adaptation of it written by Roy Thomas and drawn by Barry Smith (before e added the “Windsor”) back about 1975 for Savage Sword of Conan was pretty damned cinematic, especially the shot with the Apples of Derketo dripping in the foreground as Conan attacked the “dragon”. If they used that as the storyboards, I wouldn’t mind.

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### Author: ![BadBadger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@BadBadger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BadBadger)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/7 "2005-08-23T12:43:58Z")

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Quick question - is this the story where Conan comes across a kinda forgotten temple/city in the middle of nowhere. Two rival gangs fighting each other in the middle, filled with halls and balconies? That was easily my favourite. Can anyone tell me the title of the book so I can go grab it?

If it’s animated though, even I won’t watch it.

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### Author: ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/8 "2005-08-23T12:48:56Z")

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**Bager** – that’s the one.  
What’s wrong with animation? If you can find it, watch the animated film **Fire and Ice**. The story ain’t great, but Frank Frazetta did the inspirational sketches and characters. Yum.

> **[Fire and Ice (1983) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085542/)**
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> Fire and Ice: Directed by Ralph Bakshi, Tom Tataranowicz. With Randy Norton, Cynthia Leake, Steve Sandor, Sean Hannon. At the end of the ice age, an evil queen and her son are set on conquering the world using magic and warriors. The lone survivor of...

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/9 "2005-08-23T12:53:10Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> I think you’re mixing your Conan stories

There’s no creature of some sort eatting the other side? 🙂

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### Author: ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/10 "2005-08-23T13:00:07Z")

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It’s been a while since I read it, but IIRC, the weird menace is the Real Old Guy from one side who latches onto the magic ray gun crystal and starts zapping people.

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### Author: ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/11 "2005-08-23T13:00:22Z")

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> [@BadBadger](#):
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> Quick question - is this the story where Conan comes across a kinda forgotten temple/city in the middle of nowhere. Two rival gangs fighting each other in the middle, filled with halls and balconies? That was easily my favourite. Can anyone tell me the title of the book so I can go grab it?

That was the book. It hasn’t been reprinted in the excellent Wandering Star reprints yet, so it should be in the Nov. volume (IIRC, that’ll be the final).

The comic was also recently reprinted in the Dark Horse reissues, but I can’t find it in my collection. I want to say it was in Vol .4 as that was after BWS’ departure and he came back an actual artist by that point.

Man, that’s driving me nuts, it was really, really cool.

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### Author: ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/12 "2005-08-23T14:22:47Z")

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Yeah, it’s volume 4 of the Dark Horse reprint collection…and with all new improved coloring! Sweet stuff…

Nitpick of sorts: it was Valeria, not Red Sonja, in _Red Nails_.

The original **Conan the Barbarian** movie mixed up a bunch of different REH stories, some of which weren’t even Conan stories. Valeria was particularly misrepresented, as in the books she was a the leader of a band of pirates called the Red Brotherhood and as far as I know she only had a brief fling with Conan (although a memorable one). The Valeria of the movie was more like a mix of the Red Sonja of the comics (as far as I know, Red Sonja never was in any of the Conan stories that REH wrote) and Belit (also a leader of a group of corsairs - something about strong, beautiful women and the sea that REH loved, apparently) , who was the first and probably greatest true love of Conan’s life and who was the one who declared that she would come back from the dead to fight by Conan’s side if he were in danger…

That’s one part of my love/hate relationship with the Conan movie; I thought it was great but it’s like they not only put a lot of eggs in one basket, they shook it up and made an omelete out of it.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/13 "2005-08-23T15:09:48Z")

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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> (BTW, **carnivorous** , no snake in RN. I think you’re mixing your Conan stories).

…A monstrous head protrued from behind the divan, a reptilian head, broad as the head of a crocodile, with down curving fangs that projected over the lower jaw. …  
Conan peered behind the couch. It was a great serpent which lay there limp in death, but such a serpent as he had never seen in his wanderings…  
“It is the crawler!” whispered Yanath.  
“It’s the thing I slashed on the stair,” grunted Conan…

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### Author: ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/14 "2005-08-23T15:19:20Z")

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Ah.

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### Author: ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/15 "2005-08-23T16:40:50Z")

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Red Nails is one of the better stories since it has a fairly nice backstory that has a lesson for us nowadays …

The two groups fighting it out in the city in the jungle are the remnants of a once-mighty empire who are still fighting with insane fury even though their empire is gone and no one remembers what the original quarrel was about. Call the two factions “Dems” and “Pubs” and it could get interesting.

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### Author: ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/16 "2005-08-23T17:03:20Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> The two groups fighting it out in the city in the jungle are the remnants of a once-mighty empire who are still fighting with insane fury even though their empire is gone and no one remembers what the original quarrel was about. Call the two factions “Dems” and “Pubs” and it could get interesting.

Coms and Yangs ^ :dubious: ^

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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/17 "2005-08-23T17:06:59Z")

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> [@Evil Captor](#):
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> Red Nails is one of the better stories since it has a fairly nice backstory that has a lesson for us nowadays …
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> The two groups fighting it out in the city in the jungle are the remnants of a once-mighty empire who are still fighting with insane fury even though their empire is gone and no one remembers what the original quarrel was about. Call the two factions “Dems” and “Pubs” and it could get interesting.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Coms and Yangs ^ :dubious: ^

SPARTAN DOG! SARACEN PIG! TURKISH TAFFEY! SPANISH FLY! SWEDISH MEATBALL!

I like Woody Allen’s early films, as well as Howard’s writing. 😛😉😃

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### Author: ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)
#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/18 "2005-08-24T00:32:15Z")

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Slight hijack, but the Dark Horse Conan comic books by Kurt Busiek are extremely faithful to the source material, adapting classic stories and telling new ones “in continuity” with the originals. They’re getting pretty strong raves from Robert E. Howard fans.

Might change your mind about the possiblities of animation.

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#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/19 "2005-08-24T01:47:17Z")

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Could be good. Now if they’d only do a Solomon Kane movie…

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#### Post date: [August 24, 2005, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conan-movie/318213/20 "2005-08-24T01:58:47Z")

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> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#):
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> Apparently, there is going to be a full-length animated feature film of the Conan story _Red Nails_.
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> [http://www.conan.com/f\_rednails.shtml](http://www.conan.com/f_rednails.shtml)

What?! This isn’t about [Conan O’ Brien](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005277/)? :mad:

And I was really looking forward towards the Masturbating Bear’s big screen debut…

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