# New conspiracy: U.S. was funding Ukrainian "biolabs" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion\ **Created:** [March 10, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819 "2022-03-10T11:19:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/61 "2022-03-10T21:54:45Z")
> [@XT](#): > > Just because that idiot Hannity is saying it, doesn’t mean most people are buying that horseshit. It’s only being bought by the faithful. After each debate between Clinton and Trump, during the 2016 elections, Trumps’ numbers tanked. Everyone watched the debates and they saw, clear as day, the man was an idiot. Two weeks later, after continuous and prolific “explaining” by professional spinsters, the numbers were right back where they had been. Put a man in a crowd, watching with his own eyes as a large group of soldiers fires on and murders a group of people, then expose him to two weeks of explanations of how what he saw there with his own eyes just ain’t so, and he’s going to tell you that it didn’t happen. The current polls don’t matter, just how long and how continuous the flow of spin and propaganda is. You can get to any position that you want. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2022, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/62 "2022-03-10T23:29:39Z")
In Syria, Assad attacked his own people with chemical weapons and there was a huge Russian backed disinformation campaign to blame the attack on the White Helmets. > **[Chemical Weapons and Absurdity: The Disinformation Campaign Against the White...](https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2018/12/18/chemical-weapons-and-absurdity-the-disinformation-campaign-against-the-white-helmets/)** > > Translations:English (UK)Русский (Россия) A joint report in collaboration with Newsy The Syrian Civil Defence (SCD), also known as the White Helmets, is a search-and-rescue organisation based in opposition-held areas. They have recorded some of the... I feel like Putin is setting the table for something similar with this biolabs business. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/63 "2022-03-11T03:07:20Z")
Bingo. Mass murder of civilians soon to come, I predict. I think Putins endgame may just be suicide by worldwide thermonuclear war. “I am so powerful, I myself destroyed the world” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/64 "2022-03-11T03:58:46Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > So this guy supports attacks on American bases? > [@Atamasama](#): > > The super secret bases that Soros and Fauci are running, in a conspiracy with the Deep State and the Left, not bases that our American military heroes are deployed at. But the article says these are Department of Defense labs, so these are the heroes. And if it was on Alex Jones’ website, the article must have its facts right > [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > It would appear so. But I’m sure if I asked he would deny it. He would probably say something along the lines of, “No, I don’t support the attack. But I can see why Russia would do it.” Did he say he sees why Russia made the attack? Or did he say the attack was justified? If you can get him to say the word justified, put a pious look on your face and say _“Maybe you think the Russians are justified in attacking American bases. Me? I’m a patriot who loves my country and I would never say that foreigners was justified in attacking Americans. But I suppose you have a constitutional right though to say what you want. Just like Jane Fonda did when she was cheering on the North Vietnamese.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/65 "2022-03-11T04:59:44Z")
I am _positive_ - as certain as I’ve ever been of anything in my life - that the majority of respondents to that poll don’t actually _know what a no-fly zone means._ I would bet every last dollar to my name that most of the people who answered that they support a no-fly zone are under the impression that a no-fly zone is some kind of gentleman’s agreement between NATO and Russia that the airspace is off-limits, as if such a thing ever existed. They think it’s just some kind of honor-system thing - a bureaucratic asterisk on some official paperwork - I am utterly certain of it. They don’t know what it means. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/66 "2022-03-11T05:47:46Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > [snip] and the second part has him saying that the US flip-flopped on those Polish planes, which is also apparently bullshit. Any reasonable person would be willing to give Hannity a pass on that one. The reporting on those planes is one of the most confusing things I’ve ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/67 "2022-03-11T05:59:38Z")
> [@Bootb](#): > > Any reasonable person would be willing to give Hannity a pass on that one. The reporting on those planes is one of the most confusing things I’ve ever seen. Hannity gets paid a helluva lot of money to - at least in theory - get it right, and not draw conclusions from things that aren’t known to be correct. If he can’t get a story about Polish planes to make sense and be correct, he could easily dedicate the segment to the latest culture war atrocity in the States. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/68 "2022-03-11T06:02:18Z")
> [@Lamoral](#): > > I am _positive_ - as certain as I’ve ever been of anything in my life - that the majority of respondents to that poll don’t actually _know what a no-fly zone means._ It would be interesting to ask - in the same poll - if they would favor the US Air Force shooting down planes over Ukrainian territory, or making airstrikes on SAM sites in Ukraine. I suspect this would show your hypothesis to be correct. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/69 "2022-03-11T06:08:01Z")
Hunter Biden and his infamous laptop, too. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/70 "2022-03-11T06:47:03Z")
Anyone else fucking exhausted from this bullshit? Im so tired. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/71 "2022-03-11T11:42:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > “Maybe you think the Russians are justified in attacking American bases. Me? I’m a patriot who loves my country and I would never say that foreigners was justified in attacking Americans. But I suppose you have a constitutional right though to say what you want. Just like Jane Fonda did when she was cheering on the North Vietnamese.” This right here is glorious. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/72 "2022-03-11T11:56:24Z")
If Hannity didn’t know what the fuck he was talking about, he should have asked a question rather than make an accusation. The reporter on her show really seemed to know her shit. For example, if I was shown to be completely wrong about those bio labs, I might have had some humility and, instead of accusing the current administration of being hapless fools (like myself), I might have said, “Can you explain what is going on with those Polish MIG-29s? I’m getting mixed reports and I can’t figure it out.” In any case, I’m not about to give a conduit of Russian propaganda that has a prominent show on our most popular news network any break at all. Maybe, in this time of war, he should stop spewing Russian propaganda and stop dumping on the administration for false reasons. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/73 "2022-03-11T12:17:16Z")
Hey, here’s Fucker Carlson spewing the same conspiracy theory: > **[Tucker Carlson Claims Actually, America is Attacking Russia With...](https://www.thewrap.com/tucker-carlson-claims-actually-america-is-attacking-russia-with-disinformation-video/)** > > It's part of a conspiracy theory Tucker Carlson discusses that the U.S. is funding bioweapons labs in Ukraine Fox News is an actual Russian propaganda outlet now, and if you watch it, you’re basically helping our enemy. So, enjoy that, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/74 "2022-03-11T14:10:37Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Fox News is an actual Russian propaganda outlet now, and if you watch it, you’re basically helping our enemy. So, enjoy that, I guess. And it’s starting to work. Here in Trumplandia, a more or less solid support for Ukraine is starting to falter with the idea that maybe Russia was justified in their invasion if Ukraine was developing bio-weapons. It’s always sold as a possibility, but as long as that possibility exists, it creates doubt. I’ve heard the formulation, “Well, if Ukraine _was_ developing bioweapons…” verbatim twice this morning already. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/75 "2022-03-11T14:20:18Z")
He’s a modern day [Lord Haw-Haw](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Haw-Haw). ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/76 "2022-03-11T15:29:31Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > > [@RitterSport](#): > > > > Fox News is an actual Russian propaganda outlet now, and if you watch it, you’re basically helping our enemy. So, enjoy that, I guess. > > And it’s starting to work. Here in Trumplandia, a more or less solid support for Ukraine is starting to falter with the idea that maybe Russia was justified in their invasion if Ukraine was developing bio-weapons. > > It’s always sold as a possibility, but as long as that possibility exists, it creates doubt. I’ve heard the formulation, “Well, if Ukraine _was_ developing bioweapons…” verbatim twice this morning already. And this is why Vladimir Putin thought he could get away with his Ukraine adventure. With a right-wing media environment primed to trust him and distrust whatever comes from a Democratic-run government, he could start putting up whatever his propaganda ministry thought might work, and then - if it doesn’t work - pivot in real time to the next thing they can think of. Meanwhile, Urkraine’s and the West’s ability to reach his populace, who are primed to believe nothing - including what Putin’s government says, has been significantly degraded. Ukraine has played the information war perfectly up until now, but as we settle in for the long siege, Putin’s going to keep working on our fifth column. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/77 "2022-03-11T15:31:15Z")
And, conservative media, traitors that they are, are going to lap it up and send it out to their loyal viewers. Our most popular news network is basically Tokyo Rose. It’s disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/78 "2022-03-11T15:34:55Z")
Of course the Russians attacked Ukraine to prevent dangerous biolab releases, which also explains why Russia attacked the Chernobyl nuclear power facility. Hannity and Carlson are brave Truth Warriors who expose what the MSM refuses to tell us. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/79 "2022-03-11T16:37:15Z")
By the way, [this Twitter feed](https://twitter.com/israel_mid_ru) seems to be a direct feed of Russian lies. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/80 "2022-03-11T16:50:16Z")
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