# New conspiracy: U.S. was funding Ukrainian "biolabs"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion\
**Created:** [March 10, 2022, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819 "2022-03-10T11:19:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/141 "2022-03-17T14:55:22Z")

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I think the only reason it’s getting any traction is because right-wing media has become an arm of Russian propaganda. Any news source worthy of the name wouldn’t discuss it at all, because it’s total bullshit. But, if you’re a Russian propaganda outlet, you keep “just asking questions”. Squeaky questions if you’re Fucker Carlson.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/142 "2022-03-17T15:25:01Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Trump is a treasonous, incompetent, narcissistic weasel

Again I must protest this libel against weasels.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/143 "2022-03-17T16:54:39Z")

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Here’s an article from The New Republic, alleging that some Republicans are advocating for a no-fly zone just because they think pushing us into WW3 would hurt Biden politically.

> **[Republicans’ Wildly Cynical and Slightly Ignorant Support for a No-Fly Zone](https://newrepublic.com/article/165738/republicans-support-no-fly-zone-ukraine-hurt-biden)**
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> Sure, it could start World War III. But some GOP politicians are calling for a no-fly zone in Ukraine to try to hurt Biden politically.

The dynamic is interesting. At the beginning of any crisis, the alert viewer can always see Fox and the other right wing outlets workshopping various political narratives, testing the reaction to see which one flies with their viewers. But I’ve never seen their narratives surround the Democratic Party position the way these have.

On one side, you have the alt-right story, Ukraine isn’t a real country, it’s a money laundromat for the Democrats, staffed by gay transgender Hillary-loving Nazis who are fabricating atrocities to make Putin, the great defender of traditional values, look like a war criminal. The MSM is propagating this propaganda, and the delusional sheeple, the libtards and RINO’s are eating it up.

On the other side, you have the traditional conservative story. Joe Biden is weak. Trump was a strong President who hated Russia like no other President has hated Russia, he spent his entire Presidency punishing Russia and makIng NATO strong. Putin quivers in fear at the sight of Trump’s manly visage and wets his pants when he hears Trump’s powerful voice. President Trump was Putin’s worst nightmare, which is why he totally didn’t interfere in the 2016 election. Joe Biden is a 90 pound weakling who can’t arm-wrestle and he’s a pussy for not dropping a nuke on Moscow last week.

It’s hard to see how they can get to a unified narrative. Interesting times.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/144 "2022-03-17T16:58:41Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> It’s hard to see how they can get to a unified narrative.

They don’t have to. Republicans can believe 10 contradictory thoughts before breakfast.

Just pump out a bunch of bullshit narratives, and various republicans will believe whichever one they feel like that morning, depending on what kind of cereal they ate.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/145 "2022-03-17T17:01:13Z")

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It can’t be coincidence that Russia sanctioned nearly all the Canadian MPs, regardless of party, but only sanctioned the administration and some Democrats in the US, no Republicans.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/146 "2022-03-17T17:12:07Z")

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The Cheeto Faced Shit Gibbon ( or is it the Shit Faced Cheeto Gibbon, I can never remember) is actually heralding this as proof that Biden is corrupt for Russia, which is the only reason he hasn’t nuked them yet.

> <https://twitter.com/margommartin/status/1503790874332966919/photo/1>

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/147 "2022-03-17T18:28:27Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> . . . Republicans can believe 10 contradictory thoughts before breakfast.
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> Just pump out a bunch of bullshit narratives, and various republicans will believe whichever one they feel like that morning, **depending on what kind of cereal they ate**.

That can’t explain the contradictory things they believe _before_ breakfast.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/148 "2022-03-18T04:59:27Z")

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I’m wondering how the pubbies wrap their so-called brains around this dilemma. They’re supporting Trump who supported Putin for attacking Ukraine because “Nazis”, but didn’t Trump also call Nazis “good people”? And now they’re condemning Biden because Ukraine has been invaded by the heroes of the pubbies.

I don’t care what whacked-out nut-job conspiracy theory you want to write, you’re not going to one up this complete nonsense that is literally costing people their lives.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/149 "2022-03-18T11:48:42Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’m wondering how the pubbies wrap their so-called brains around this dilemma. They’re supporting Trump who supported Putin for attacking Ukraine because “Nazis”, but didn’t Trump also call Nazis “good people”? And now they’re condemning Biden because Ukraine has been invaded by the heroes of the pubbies.

Well, for better or for worse, Nazis are fundamentally _nationalists_. So, Ukrainian Nazis are bad, because they’re fighting for “Ukraine for the Ukrainians”, instead of fighting for “America First”, the way American Nazis do. And of course Ukraine is Anti-Trump, because their refusal to do as Trump wanted them to do got Trump impeached, and then they helped steal the election for Biden.

So, you see, it all makes “sense”.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2022, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/150 "2022-03-18T12:21:40Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’m wondering how the pubbies wrap their so-called brains around this dilemma. They’re supporting Trump who supported Putin for attacking Ukraine because “Nazis”, but didn’t Trump also call Nazis “good people”? And now they’re condemning Biden because Ukraine has been invaded by the heroes of the pubbies.

Yes, they kicked off with “Biden is bad for not stopping this invasion that we openly support” pretty early on.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-conspiracy-u-s-was-funding-ukrainian-biolabs/960819/151 "2022-03-19T16:35:23Z")

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So, does this make Vladie the ultimate Anti-Fascist? So any right-wing Americans who support Putin are Antifa sympathizers?

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