# New DC Universe = New Coke?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 31, 2011, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897 "2011-05-31T21:17:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![cosmosdan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@cosmosdan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cosmosdan)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/141 "2011-06-11T02:18:52Z")

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Yeah, that story was [Heroes Reborn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroes_Reborn), I remember that, it didn’t last long. [This is why.](http://etopuzlu.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/liefeld-cap.jpg)

Who the hell was that freak?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/142 "2011-06-11T03:14:12Z")

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I think it’s Power Girl…

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/143 "2011-06-11T07:00:05Z")

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> [@cosmosdan](#):
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> Who the hell was that freak?

Remember kids, don’t do drugs. Not even steroids.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/144 "2011-06-11T13:13:20Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think it’s Power Girl…

[Ahem. 😃](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13865392&postcount=14)

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/145 "2011-06-11T13:59:34Z")

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> [@markm](#):
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> A lot of these make me think of Marvel in the mid-90’s or Image Comics (not surprising, when you see the names involved, but still…) and that’s not a good thing.

QFT.

I realize this is totally partial, but I’ve stopped reading US comics on a regular basis when the whole future Image line-up started to appear in the pages of Marvel (Mc Farlane, Lee, Liefeld, even Larsen). I blame Image for the downfall of US comics. Why the hell would DC rehire those has-beens?

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/146 "2011-06-11T14:15:37Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Stormwatch? Blackhawk? Sgt. Freakin’ Rock?  
> O.k.-I’m in. 🙂

The descriptions of Blackhawk and Sgt. Rock seem a little similar, though.

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**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/147 "2011-06-30T04:24:06Z")

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Maybe I’m a little slow on the uptake, but I just read in Newsarama that the reboot will eliminate the JSA and all DC history. Superman will now be the first superhero, and he will have been active for only a few years when the new comics launch.

I hate this. The concept of legacies \_ Jay Garrick to Barry Allen to Wally West or Ted Knight to Jack Knight to Courtney Whitmore \_ is one of the defining traits of the DC universe, as far as I’m concerned.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/148 "2011-06-30T14:08:54Z")

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I can’t imagine they’ll actually do that. They must mean something else by making Superman the “first superhero.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/149 "2011-06-30T15:54:52Z")

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> [@cmkeller](#):
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> I can’t imagine they’ll actually do that. They must mean something else by making Superman the “first superhero.”

According to the press releases, Supes was the first, and the JLA was founded approximately five years ago. Of course, this leaves open the possibility of there being previous non-powered “Mystery Men”.

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**Author:** ![Clark\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c77e96/32.png) [@Clark\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clark_K)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/150 "2011-06-30T21:34:33Z")

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Here’s a link to the Newsarama piece. It’s “Myth No. 7”

[http://www.newsarama.com/comics/ten-dcnu-myths-busted-110629-1.html](http://www.newsarama.com/comics/ten-dcnu-myths-busted-110629-1.html)

“The DC-founding superhero team called the Justice Society is gone,” it says, while noting that the characters might show up somehow.

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**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/151 "2011-06-30T22:19:05Z")

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The words they use do not always clearly convey what they intend to do.

While it’s true that the JSA book has been floundering for a while, it’s become pretty clear to DC, at least since James Robinson’s Starman series, what a goldmine they have in their older characters. They’re not going to throw it away entirely, I’m sure of that.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/152 "2011-07-02T05:17:07Z")

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> [@Clark\_K](#):
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> Here’s a link to the Newsarama piece. It’s “Myth No. 7”
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> [Newsarama | GamesRadar+](http://www.newsarama.com/comics/ten-dcnu-myths-busted-110629-1.html)
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> “The DC-founding superhero team called the Justice Society is gone,” it says, while noting that the characters might show up somehow.

While noting that the modern members of the team might show up somehow. Not Jay, Alan, or Ted. Plus, it’s Newsarama. they don’t know crap.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dc-universe-new-coke/583897/153 "2011-07-02T15:53:59Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> Liefeld still can’t draw  
> [snip]

Fixed your post. You’re welcome.

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