# New Deal Democrat and his views on race

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 21, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492 "2011-03-21T18:47:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/261 "2011-03-28T06:31:16Z")

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It’s actually kind of reassuring, and goes to show our essential commonality and humanity.  
No matter what color your skin, no matter what your ethnicity, no matter what culture you come from… if you’re a racist, there’s something wrong with you.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/262 "2011-03-28T06:51:19Z")

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Crime genes, poverty genes, bad education genes, illegitimacy genes. And now racist genes. What is wrong with those people?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/263 "2011-03-28T13:42:41Z")

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Damn, he blowed up real good.  
I’d wager we’ll be seeing “banned” under his name is a matter of hours.

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> [@](#):
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> My Final Shot (across the bow)  
> Dear Straiaght Dope Forum,  
> This is my parting piece to inform you that I’ve been at this exact place, many many times. I am no foreigner to “tar and feathering”, “being burned at the stake” and “mock lynchings”.
> 
> In my “White America Has Lost Its’ Mind” thread which Colibri unceremoniously (and cowardly) chose to close, because dissent is obviously not tolerated here, although prolific use of the n-word is not only tolerated but encouraged…and why isn’t the posting of an entire article permitted? I wanted to make sure everyone read every possible portion of it, as it was “food for thought”, and obviously “needed”.
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> Then we have the peanut gallery with obvious race issues:  
> Fear Itself (as if)  
> Frank ( clueless)  
> Truman Burbank( if the shoe fits…)  
> John Mace ( coward and tattletale)  
> FinnAgain (rabid racist and bigot, and no doubt IRA)  
> Ex Tank ( homeboy wanna be)  
> Gravitycrash ( sir, you are not Polish…I know Polish, and you are not it) racist  
> yoyodyne ( idiot and nose picker)  
> Dewey Finn ( Finn Again’s illegitimate brother)  
> Dissonance (again, as if) try looking in a mirror  
> Thanks to the following 'common sense" posters for support:  
> Autolycus  
> The Tao’s Revenge  
> Nancarrow  
> xtisme  
> I just left one forum that I was banned from because I dared buck the moderation team (such as it was). As a moderator, I posted an adversary’s IP address, after he had posted my private and personal information in the forum. Tit for tat.  
> And because I wouldn’t apologize, my mod status was removed, and because I further publicly humiliated the moderator who posed as a sok, I was banned.  
> White folks don’t take well to uppity n-words…and that’s exactly what I am…your worst nightmare, never to mind. I was going to leave the forum anyway, because the white racists, bigots, and Obama haters had taken over and it had become a dark cesspool, much like here. Never fear, I’m hold out at several forums that have a proviso against racial pejoratives, which some of you have a penchant for here, and are far less hypocritical than you. I wish you all well, in this narrow minded little hellhole, laughingly you have the audacity to call “The Straight Dope”. Ciao.

]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13622294&postcount=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13622294&postcount=1))

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/264 "2011-03-28T14:01:02Z")

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Damn, he’s been here since last fall and he seemed fine up until just a few days ago, and then suddenly he just went wacko as hell. Based on what you just posted, I’m thinking it must have been the criticism that Obama has been coming in for over Libya that sent him over the edge.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/265 "2011-03-28T14:08:40Z")

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That, or the angel dust.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/266 "2011-03-28T14:12:44Z")

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I’m still amused that he thought I was a racist and a bigot because I said that the word “nigger” is an awful slur that should never be used to describe anybody, ever. I said the same thing about “kyke” and I admit I am somewhat saddened to learn that I am not also a Jew-hater.

I am surprised to learn that not only am I Irish and probably a member of the IRA (not a bad set of accomplishments for a Jewish guy from Long Island), but Dewey Finn is also my illegitimate brother. Mom!?!?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/267 "2011-03-28T14:28:57Z")

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I was going to ask about the IRA. I was wondering if you were secretly Irish or if the Jewish Banking Conspiracy had put you in charge of Independent Retirement Accounts.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/268 "2011-03-28T14:36:19Z")

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Nah, I left the JBC a few years back. Ironically enough they paid kinda lousy.  
Now I’m part of the Jewish Internet Conspiracy where I lead a team in the Propaganda Management department. Our higherups have decided that internet geeks are the true secret to securing utter global domination, so naturally I’ve been assigned to the Dope.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/269 "2011-03-28T14:58:16Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I am surprised to learn that not only am I Irish and probably a member of the IRA (not a bad set of accomplishments for a Jewish guy from Long Island), but Dewey Finn is also my illegitimate brother. Mom!?!?

Maybe he just thought your name was, “Ira.”

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/270 "2011-03-28T15:13:47Z")

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_sniffle_ I made a racist loon’s enemies list. I feel so special.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/271 "2011-03-28T15:21:16Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> I’m trying to access on a mobile device. I think it’s automatically diverting me to a modified version of the page.

That’s what happened to me. I get the picture on my home PC, the gossip page on my mobile.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/272 "2011-03-28T15:53:11Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I am surprised to learn that not only am I Irish and probably a member of the IRA (not a bad set of accomplishments for a Jewish guy from Long Island), but Dewey Finn is also my illegitimate brother. Mom!?!?

Well your name probably sounds too much like what is it? Sinn fein? Sean Finn? All those mick names must start to sound alike to **poet**.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/273 "2011-03-28T16:26:37Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I’m still amused that he thought I was a racist and a bigot because I said that the word “nigger” is an awful slur that should never be used to describe anybody, ever. I said the same thing about “kyke” and I admit I am somewhat saddened to learn that I am not also a Jew-hater.

OMG, you said nigger and kike and Jew all in one post! How evil is _that_?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/274 "2011-03-28T16:42:05Z")

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On a serious note, I had a roommate in college who honestly thought that the proper term was “Jewish” since he had only ever heard the word “Jew” used as a slur and didn’t think it was a real word.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/275 "2011-03-28T16:58:35Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I am surprised to learn that not only am I Irish and probably a member of the IRA (not a bad set of accomplishments for a Jewish guy from Long Island), but Dewey Finn is also my illegitimate brother. Mom!?!?

Not to mention that **The Seventh Deadly Finn** is your illegitimate sister, or you’re triplet Imaginary Friends. Scary stuff.

Still I suspect **poet** has a point. A search under his username (where did that last blast **Finn** quoted come from?) reveals the following sequential threads:

**Let’s Have a Frank Discussion on Race  
What’s For Dinner Tonight?**

:eek:

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/276 "2011-03-28T17:01:21Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> where did that last blast **Finn** quoted come from?

It was a thread in ATMB. Looks like the mods disappeared it.  
I suppose my post is the only surviving copy… shhh, don’t tell them.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/277 "2011-03-28T17:02:47Z")

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That’s not an unusual belief. We had a thread about how calling someone a Jew just kind of feels wrong to some people… in IMHO, a couple of months back, I think.

Plus, it’s the same thing with equivalent constructions for other racial descriptors. I’d probably raise an eyebrow if I heard someone referred to as “a black”, “a white”, or “a Chinese” (though not “an Asian”). Actually, that works for definite articles, too - “the blacks” also sounds wrong (though “blacks” by itself is fine).

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/278 "2011-03-28T17:10:23Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> On a serious note, I had a roommate in college who honestly thought that the proper term was “Jewish” since he had only ever heard the word “Jew” used as a slur and didn’t think it was a real word.

I think I’ve mentioned this in the past, but some journalism classmates of mine (mid-1990’s) were absolutely incredulous at the professor’s contention that the term “Jew” was not considered a slur, and was an acceptable noun to use in news articles.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-deal-democrat-and-his-views-on-race/575492/279 "2011-03-28T20:43:19Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I am surprised to learn that not only am I Irish

I’d gas it was your joyce of agnomen that borned his erse.

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