# New Diplomacy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 23, 2002, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279 "2002-11-23T00:59:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/261 "2003-02-20T15:08:49Z")

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I think it was communal, in that at least one MAD who is in both games was snowed in, and then a DAD who is in both games got the sniffews.

Dip Minime could beat up Dip 1099[sub]although I hear that Turkey guy is pretty tough[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/262 "2003-02-21T01:16:07Z")

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I’m short two sets of orders still. One of them has contacted me and promises them soon. I’m still waiting for the other one.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/263 "2003-02-21T03:07:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> \*\*Dip Minime could beat up Dip 1099[sub]although I hear that Turkey guy is pretty tough[/sub] \*\*

Ah, gimme a break. Bobble would kick Minime’s butt into Iceland. Turkey ain’t all that great, either; I hear he’s so mixed up he plans to go for Portugal.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/264 "2003-02-21T04:02:28Z")

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Well, yes. In 1099 Turkey will be going to Portugal.

Via Italy, Austria, Russia, Germany and France.

England I like, so it can be a satellite.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/265 "2003-02-21T12:46:31Z")

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All orders are in. adjudication shortly, shorty.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/266 "2003-02-21T16:02:46Z")

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If, _if_, this is the game where the results were sent this morning, then it’s really taken some interesting turns. Obviously **Mr. Steve** suffers from his lack of kibbitzing on the Boards. It sure looks like a dogpile on Germany. Our beloved **JC** is rounding the bases in the wrong direction, and glancing off France on his way to England. **WL** is all in Germany’s sh!t, which can’t be making the Kaiser too happy. **Weirddave** , in Austria, seems to be doing okay but he needs to see a surgeon about having that Russian Army removed. Speaking of which, what the hell is that Italian army doing roming up around Bohemia? Looking for a good latte? Meantime **McG** and **Omni** seem to be wetting themselves over the prospects in Northern Europe, but where will the builds come from once the German is destroyed? **Schnitte** , meanwhile, seems stuck in neutral down in the other corner.

All in all quite entertaining, but a bit difficult to predict where things will go once everyone finishes pounding on the German war machine.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/267 "2003-02-21T16:37:54Z")

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Retreats went out.

Germany’s Belgium army retreated to Ruhr  
Germany’s Munich army retreated to Tyrolia

I still need one build order, and then will post that.

**JC** didn’t capture Portugal so much as he ran smack into it because he misjudged the corner at Gibraltar.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/268 "2003-02-21T18:20:56Z")

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I’m sorry. What with sending in the minime build, getting the 1099 adjudication out, all that stuff this morning I failed to forward myself the Minime adjudication. Would somebody forward it to me at [inthetank2001@yahoo.com](mailto:inthetank2001@yahoo.com) again so I can heckle people from work? I’m hoping for a slow day here today.

**Abe** , you got my build, right?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/269 "2003-02-21T18:22:34Z")

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The webpage has been updated including the map with retreats already executed. I believe all builds are in as well, so once **AB** gets them sent out I’ll plug them in and post the winter map and results including next year’s deadlines as provided.

Enjoy.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/270 "2003-02-21T18:24:09Z")

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**WL** , see the[Mini-Me Webpage](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/Mini-Me/) here.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/271 "2003-02-21T20:25:49Z")

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I’ll just plan on cc’ing your yahoo account as well from now on, **WL**. That do ya?

Please do heckle. Other than **Shibb** , the only razzing is whose game is cooler. An we don’t need to get into that.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/272 "2003-02-21T20:35:21Z")

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Schmoove. You da man, **Omni**. _Merci_.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/273 "2003-02-21T21:05:44Z")

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**Abe** , I tried to get into that with you, but I just couldn’t figure out where I stood on the issue. I mean, 1099 is clearly a better game from a purely _administrative_ standpoint, but obviously it would be folly to argue that the players are of a higher caliber than those of Minime.

I’m just so conflicted about the whole thing.

I had been trying to avoid having them all sent to my yahoo account because I was getting close to my space limit there, but I cleaned it out. So I guess this is by way of a ‘thank you’ for adding my yahoo account to the mailing list.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/274 "2003-02-21T21:12:08Z")

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Better from an administrative standpoint?

When we had an error in Mini-me, we worked through it. Dip 1099 has a snafu and shuts down. It’s like the Windows of the Diplomacy world.

And I refer to 1099 as It That Must Not Be Named.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/275 "2003-02-21T21:24:14Z")

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Hey, if you don’t watch out it’ll be _Dip 1099: **Abe** ’s Butt_.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/276 "2003-02-21T21:26:07Z")

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Winter page has been updated.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/277 "2003-02-21T21:33:29Z")

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As a neutral party, I’d have to say that so far 1099 - Get Smart has been more drama and humor, but the fighting in Minime has been more intense. As for administration, I might have to give the nod to **Omni** in his GM debut, especially for his careful explanation of the orders in his last note.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/278 "2003-02-21T21:37:36Z")

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Well, gee, thanks **Shibbs**.  
[sub]bow before me plebes![/sub]

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/279 "2003-02-21T22:16:07Z")

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I’ll have to see **Omni’s** letter before making any decisions on that.

The Noob game definitely has the best smack talk going around, though.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2003, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/280 "2003-02-21T23:12:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> \*\*And I refer to 1099 as It That Must Not Be Named. \*\*

I [sub]bobble[/sub] disagree. [sub]bobble[/sub] I [sub]bobble[/sub] think [sub]bobble[/sub] it [sub]bobble[/sub] has [sub]bobble[/sub] a [sub]bobble[/sub] perfectly [sub]bobble[/sub] fine [sub]bobble[/sub] name. [sub]bobble[/sub] [sub]bobble[/sub] [sub]bobble[/sub] [sub]bobble[/sub] [sub]bobble[/sub]

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> _ **Shibb** said:_  
> As a neutral party, I’d have to say that so far 1099 - Get Smart has been more drama and humor, but the fighting in Minime has been more intense.

Didja know that France and I were allies? Makes it even more interesting, doesn’t it?

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