# New Diplomacy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 23, 2002, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279 "2002-11-23T00:59:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/81 "2003-01-18T22:37:13Z")

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I’ll tell you what. If 7 newbies post to this thread with interest in starting a game, and none of the traditional GMs ( **JC, Abe Babe, Weirddave** ) feel up to the task, I’ll give GMing a shot.

I figure if its gonna be a beginners game, what harm is there in a beginner GM?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/82 "2003-01-18T22:43:07Z")

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What’s the criterion for beginner? Never played before? Played in fewer than N games?\*  
Quoth Shibb, who is playing in his 3rd game (2nd full game) and is feeling decidely old these days. Perhaps it’s the brutal, drawn out campaign that 1046 has become…

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/83 "2003-01-18T23:00:58Z")

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Well, if I’m left calling the shots, I’d want to wait and see how many rookies we had. I’ve only played 2 games to completion and am in the middle of my 3rd and 4th. I’m clearly not a seasoned veteran, but I think you’d agree that the learning curve is pretty damn fast. I felt much much more comfortable and capable after my first outing.

First dibs would go to rookies, and after that it’d be a sliding scale based on experience. Players who’ve had a couple games experience would be asked to play countries they hadn’t played before.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2003, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/84 "2003-01-18T23:59:20Z")

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I’m a newbie at Diolomacy, (got it for Christmas) so I’d love to be in this game.

Oh, for whoever happens to GM this, my order is:  
I-T-R-F-E-A-G

My order, that is, if we play standard. (Please?)

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/85 "2003-01-19T02:11:49Z")

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I was thinking the same thing **Omni** was. I’ve been thinking I should take my turn at the wheel, and a beginners’ game would be the perfect chance. If you need to bow out for whatever reason, **Omni** , I’d be willing to be the second-string GM.

I’m in about the same boat as you all in terms of experience. I’ve played 3 games start to finish, I’m wrapping another right now, and my WM game and this one have just started. So that’s 6 total. That’s actually way more than I thought.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/86 "2003-01-19T02:14:54Z")

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Oh, and **Soup\_du\_jour** … I feel confident that you’ll get your first choice of Powers.

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> _Originally written by **Richard Sharp** _  
> Show any novice the Diplomacy board, run over the rules, then ask him what country he thinks is strongest. Pretty often he’ll say, as I did, ‘England’ (if he says, 'Italy, run over the rules again).

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/87 "2003-01-19T03:46:26Z")

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I’ve never played. No country preference. Should we start a new thread?

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/88 "2003-01-19T06:46:27Z")

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Deeply interested in playing, but I don’t have a board at home (well, actually I do have a board, but no pieces. Long story.). Are these PBEM games centered around a virtual board like the games I’ve seen here?

No preference for beginning.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/89 "2003-01-19T06:53:27Z")

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**Tristan** , there’s typically a link to a web-site.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/90 "2003-01-19T07:00:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
> \*\ ***Tristan** , there’s typically a link to a web-site. \*\*

Only if you’ve got a got a good GM like JC or me. 😛

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**Author:** ![foxfiregrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3da27b/32.png) [@foxfiregrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foxfiregrrl)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/91 "2003-01-19T07:27:34Z")

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I would like to play, and my country preference is F - R - E - G - T - I - A.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/92 "2003-01-19T15:37:24Z")

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> _Originally posted by Weirddave_  
> **Only if you’ve got a got a good GM like JC or me. 😛**

Wow! So, which one of you will it be? Huh? 😃

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**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesuch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesuch)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/93 "2003-01-19T15:55:24Z")

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I want in!

Long time lurker, first time poster. I played exactly once in college fifteen years ago. I was Russia and a skilled England waxed the board with everyone else, starting with me. ☹  
Revenge is a dish best served cold, with borscht. 😃

Country preferences: R G T A I F E

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/94 "2003-01-19T18:25:00Z")

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You don’t need to borscht us with the details.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/95 "2003-01-19T19:44:39Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> \*\*You don’t need to borscht us with the details. \*\*

Wow, that kind of pun is hard to beet.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/96 "2003-01-19T21:58:26Z")

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I’m already adjudicating 3 Cat23 games, 2 Worldmasters games, playing in one WM game, playing in 2 SDMB games,and playing in 1 Cat23 game.

Woof. Bow down before me, mortals!

But I’d be glad to be an advisor to a rookie GM.

First tip…get some web space and don’t fear HTML.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/97 "2003-01-19T22:44:43Z")

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**JC** , would you be willing to donate a bit of your bandwidth to a webpage for this newbie experiment? I’ve got mad HTML skillz, and if I’m GMing this puppy I would have no trouble setting up and maintaining a page for it. I also may take you up on that advisor role as well.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/98 "2003-01-20T00:29:30Z")

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I’ll send you the HTML for the “shell” that I use for my Dip webpages if you want, save you some time.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/99 "2003-01-20T18:52:01Z")

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Dave, could I get a copy of that shell as well? I am an HTML dummy, but I might be able to figure it out.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2003, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-diplomacy/138279/100 "2003-01-21T06:44:42Z")

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Just figured I’d toss this link in here since the whole idea spawned from here. Hopefully it’ll help get this thread back onto the trash talk that should be spweing from _Minime_, instead of the hijacked mess its become.

[SDMB Newbie Diploacy Game](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=157740)

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