# New discussion thread for Israel/Gaza/West Bank (Hijacks tolerated)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** israel-hamas-war, hijacks-tolerated\
**Created:** [July 12, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615 "2026-07-12T00:17:27Z")\
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What’s it about?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/556 "2026-09-15T13:52:41Z")

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A conversation between an Israeli (formerly Brit) and Palestinian Arab. Their personal experience living in Israel and West Bank. Their experience travelling from one to the other. Their understanding of what drives and motivates their respective communities - the good and the bad. Importantly, their shared approach to reach a peaceful solution.

The conversation is refreshingly non-adversarial and empathetic towards one another’s experiences. Interestingly, their common take on the non-viability of a two state solution and the (perhaps not so) novel alternative solution for peace.

Worth the 45 mins, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/557 "2026-09-15T13:58:49Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> There are moments, not many, in which my faith in humanity is momentarily lifted.

…not keen to listen to a 45-minute video from the “Israel Advocacy Movement.” Perhaps you could summarize.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/558 "2026-09-15T14:10:24Z")

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I’m not keen on reading your wall-o-text posts, but I do it, more often than not.

If the channel name makes you clutch your pearls then don’t watch it.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/559 "2026-09-15T14:17:41Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I’m not keen on reading your wall-o-text posts, but I do it, more often than not.

…I make “wall of text arguments” because _I make my case in this thread_, with citations to back me up. That’s the entire point of threads like this. So we _don’t_ have to watch random 45-minute videos.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> If the channel name makes you clutch your pearls, then don’t watch it.

I’d be clutching my pearls to a video presented by the “Gaza Advocacy Movement” as well. I’d do my research on them firstly, and if I had any doubts, I’d find an alternative source. But I would (and I have in the past) declare any obvious bias in any source I’ve linked to.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/560 "2026-09-15T14:20:26Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> But I would (and I have in the past) declare any obvious bias in any source I’ve linked to.

I think you missed quite a bit of bias.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/561 "2026-09-15T14:21:33Z")

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You make long posts because you can’t help being a pedantic and insufferable bore.

It’s just a video of two considerate and thoughtful people talking. Two people who actually live there. Unlike the rest of us who just b.s. all day long like we know what the hell we’re talking about.

Watch. Don’t watch. IDGAF.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/562 "2026-09-15T14:24:57Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> I think you missed quite a bit of bias.

…care to be specific?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2026, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/563 "2026-09-15T14:27:59Z")

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**Moderating** :

You are attacking the poster here. This is not allowed. Do not do it again.

Calling someone “pedantic” is too much for P&E, calling them an “insufferable bore” is straight out insulting anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/564 "2026-09-19T00:27:22Z")

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I just came across this video and I think it’s extremely worth a watch. Some very accurate criticism of both sides. The guy being interviewed has a YouTube channel where he has asked Israelis, Arab Israelis, and Palestinians all kinds of questions about all kinds of topics (related to the conflict and otherwise) for quite a few years now and he seems to have a very solid grasp of where people are on both sides.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Nw1KIW46yJs/maxresdefault.jpg "He’s Interviewed More Israelis and Palestinians Than Anyone on Earth | Corey Gil-Shuster") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw1KIW46yJs)

@QuickSilver, you might find this interesting.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/565 "2026-09-19T18:23:01Z")

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Wow, I’m coming across a lot of fascinating interviews on this topic recently.

The full interview is definitely worth a watch, if you can deal with subtitles.

Motaz Azaiza, a famous Palestinian journalist who has even been cited here on the Door a number of times, made a number of revelations in an interview that he undoubtedly didn’t think would get this much play, since it’s entirely in Arabic and over three hours long. But it’s also _beyond_ interesting.

Azaiza confirms a number of facts that many of us have already suspected; for example, that all journalists in Gaza are part of a WhatsApp group where Hamas tells them what they can and cannot say. Journalists who don’t toe Hamas’ lines are not allowed to work anymore at best, and disappeared at worst.

> <https://x.com/afalkhatib/status/2100982458091000193>

In other parts of the video he admits to withholding footage of the Israeli hostages being beaten and abused.

He also admits that many journalists are direcrly part of terrorist groups.

On the bright side, he also explains his disillusionment with Hamas; he charges them with knowingly destroying Gaza through their actions and with giving up the opportunity to avoid the war entirely by agreeing to disarmament on Oct 11, 2023.

[The full interview](https://youtu.be/Ak6hsyeOy60)… It’s three and a half hours long and in Arabic, so it’s no wonder he spoke freely - he probably didn’t imagine it would reach many Western eyeballs.

Meanwhile, a lawsuit has uncovered proof that TWENTY FOUR Al Jazeera “journalists” who operated in and reported from Gaza during this conflict were in fact [Hamas and PIJ terrorists.](https://www.ynetnews.com/article/a3btlu0ag) Thanks to the courts, Al Jazeera was forced to fire them; one wonders how many _didn’t_ get caught…

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**Post date:** [September 19, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/566 "2026-09-19T19:15:49Z")

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Even if this is all true, it doesn’t remotely justify the spate of atrocities in the West Bank and Gaza. Being on a Whatsapp group with members of Hamas should not be a death sentence.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/567 "2026-09-20T01:34:41Z")

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…just to be very clear about what the Ynet article actually says:

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> Al Jazeera has fired 24 journalists and staff members who operated on its behalf in the Gaza Strip, amid a lawsuit filed against the Qatari network in the United States alleging it provided support to Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Those dismissed are named in the lawsuit filed by Shurat HaDin in February 2025, with assistance from the pro-Israel advocacy organization StandWithUs. According to the lawsuit, the network’s employees maintained ties with the terrorist organizations and even operated within their ranks.

It _doesn’t_ say they were actually Hamas and PIJ terrorists. They were _named_ in a lawsuit. But that doesn’t mean they are guilty. And merely being named in a lawsuit doesn’t meet any evidentiary standards at all. The fact that a big corporation decided to take the safe option shouldn’t be any surprise at all. The courts didn’t “force them to fire them.”

And these terminations happened last month. At the time the terminated employees weren’t told _why_ they had been fired. They were also given the chance to stay on as freelancers.

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> The journalists were offered an option to become freelancers, without employment benefits, insurance, or job security.

> **[Al-Jazeera terminates employment of Palestinian journalists and media workers...](https://www.gc4hr.org/al-jazeera-terminates-employment-of-palestinian-journalists-and-media-workers-amid-ongoing-war/)**
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> The Gulf Centre for Human Rights (GCHR) has followed the termination of the employment contracts of 24 Palestinian journalists and media professionals by Al-Jazeera channel. The journalists were offered an option to become freelancers, without...

As for Hamas censorship: I don’t think anyone needs reminding that Hamas are bad guys.

But here’s the state of media censorship in Israel:

> [@wiki](#):
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> The **Israeli Military Censor** ([Hebrew](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_language "Hebrew language"): הצנזורה הצבאית) is a unit in the [IDF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces "Israel Defense Forces") [Directorate of Military Intelligence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aman_(IDF) "Aman (IDF)") tasked with carrying out preventive [censorship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship "Censorship") inside the [State of Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel "Israel") regarding the publication of information that might affect the [security](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Security_Forces "Israeli Security Forces") of Israel. The body is headed by the Israeli Chief Censor, a military official is appointed by Israel’s [Minister of Defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Defense_(Israel) "Ministry of Defense (Israel)"), who bestows upon the Chief Censor the authority to suppress information he deems compromising from being made public in the media.[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Military_Censor#cite_note-1)[[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Military_Censor#cite_note-2) On average, 2240 press articles in Israel are censored by the Israeli Military Censor each year, approximately 240 of which in full, and around 2000 partially.

> **[Israeli Military Censor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Military_Censor)**
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> The Israeli Military Censor (Hebrew: הצנזורה הצבאית) is a unit in the IDF Directorate of Military Intelligence tasked with carrying out preventive censorship inside the State of Israel regarding the publication of information that might affect the security of Israel. The body is headed by the Israeli Chief Censor, a military official is appointed by Israel's Minister of Defense, who bestows upon the Chief Censor the authority to suppress information he deems compromising from being made public in...

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> As of 2025, Israel ranks 108th in the [World Press Freedom Index](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index "Press Freedom Index"), previously 88th in 2020.[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Israel#cite_note-rsf-israel-22) This assessment focuses solely on the media situation within Israel and does not account for the widespread killings of journalists in Gaza. According to a report by [+972 Magazine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/+972_Magazine "+972 Magazine"), Israel’s military censorship reached unprecedented levels in 2024. The report indicates that, in that year, the publication of 1,635 articles was completely banned, while another 6,265 articles faced partial censorship. These figures suggest that, on average, more than 20 reports and articles per day were subjected to direct intervention by the military censorship unit.[[23]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Israel#cite_note-23)

> **[Censorship in Israel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Israel)**
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> Censorship in Israel is officially carried out by the Israeli Military Censor, a unit in the Israeli government officially tasked with carrying out preventive censorship regarding the publication of information that might affect the security of Israel. The body is headed by the Israeli Chief Censor, a military official appointed by Israel's Minister of Defense, who bestows upon the Chief Censor the authority to suppress information he deems compromising from being made public in the media, Art...

There are currently 37 Palestinian journalists held in Israeli jails. 19 of them are in administrative detention, which means they have not been charged and don’t get a proper trial. They don’t get an opportunity to defend themselves.

[https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/37-palestinian-journalists-held-in-israeli-jails-rights-group-says/4056064](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/37-palestinian-journalists-held-in-israeli-jails-rights-group-says/4056064)

> [@CPJ](#):
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> Palestinian journalist [Ahmed Abdel Aal](https://cpj.org/data/people/ahmed-abdel-aal/) remembers the moment the ear-splitting music started. For five days, he said, he was held blindfolded in a room in an Israeli detention site, stripped and beaten, while loud Hebrew and English songs played at an unrelenting volume. Every time he drifted into unconsciousness, an [electric shock](https://www.trtarabi.com/article/64221f9edd35) or a blow jolted him awake.
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> Another journalist, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals, described similar treatment inside what detainees refer to as the “disco room.” He said soldiers bound his genitals with zip ties and beat him until the injuries made it impossible to urinate without blood. “They told me that I would no longer be a man,” he said.
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> Their accounts are among 59 in-depth testimonies collected by the Committee to Protect Journalists from Palestinian journalists released from Israeli custody since October 7, 2023. These interviews revealed that 58 — all but one of those released — reported being subjected to what they described as torture, abuse, or other forms of violence since the onset of what [human rights groups](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8641wv0n4go) agree is a [genocide](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/).

> **[‘We returned from hell’: Palestinian journalists recount torture in Israeli...](https://cpj.org/special-reports/we-returned-from-hell-palestinian-journalists-recount-torture-in-israeli-prisons/)**
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> Content warning: This article contains graphic descriptions of physical, psychological, and sexual violence. Palestinian journalist Ahmed Abdel Aal remembers the moment the ear-splitting music started. For five days, he said, he was held blindfolded...

It is no secret that probably every member of the press in Israel also served in the IDF, and the IDF stands credibly accused of committing multiple atrocities in Gaza and the West Bank, including the killing of Hind Rajab, the killing of Refaat Alareer, the killing of 15 paramedics and aid workers on March 23rd 2025, the killing of 273 people and wounding 698 on the 8th of June 2024.

If being part of a WhatsApp group with Hamas and being censored makes Palestinian journalists in Gaza legitimate targets, then being former IDF makes every Israeli journalist a legitimate target as well.

But I don’t think that’s right. I think journalists deserve protection _no matter what side they are on_. I think the deliberate targeting of Palestinian journalists in Gaza is an atrocity and a war crime, and my hope is that when this is all over, those responsible are punished.

And a reminder that it isn’t just journalists that have been targeted. According to the last Gaza-reported impact snapshot on the 9th of September, Israel have killed:

-262 journalists and media workers  
-596 aid workers  
-1700 health workers (there is some overlap with aid as per the cite)  
145 civil defense staff

> **[Reported impact snapshot | Gaza Strip (9 September 2026) | United Nations...](https://www.ochaopt.org/content/reported-impact-snapshot-gaza-strip-9-september-2026)**
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> Figures that are yet-to-be verified by the UN are attributed to their source. Casualty numbers have been provided by the Ministry of Health (MoH) and the Israeli authorities. The fatality breakdowns currently cited are those that the MoH in Gaza has...

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**Post date:** [September 20, 2026, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/568 "2026-09-20T02:27:54Z")

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I’ll say that refardless of the truth behind thr lawsuit or any other allegations, Al Jazeera is RT- style state media and also we’ve seen tons of evidence from independent press outside of Gaza of Israel’s conduct in the war. A wide range of independent press, from outside Gaza, has extensively reportted that Israel chose policies during this to punish civillians in Gaza, destroy their homes etc., at times with justifications from unmamed sources or naned officials to use civillian harm to pressure Hamas into favorable negotiations, and at times with at least the implication of pressuring civilians to leave. Even Israeli media not known for being particularly pro-Palestinian has reported this.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/569 "2026-09-21T18:15:54Z")

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So, we have had many arguments, and the listing of hundreds of IDF atrocities, sometimes with very dubious cites.

But what can the US actually do? Cut aid to Israel? That will not and can not stop what is happening in Gaza (US military aid to Israel is a small part of the IDFs budget, and the big ticket items are missile defense) . All it will do is piss off the Jewish voters in America, ensuring a loss for the Democratic candidate. _This has become a “no win” issue for the Dems._

And Gaza is not the only humanitarian crisis in the world- Sudan is worse, then Syria, Congo and of course Ukraine. More even-

> **[Humanitarian Emergencies Around the World | USA for UNHCR](https://www.unrefugees.org/emergencies/)**
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> USA for UNHCR supports operations on the frontlines of conflict, working with refugees and others displaced, often in remote and dangerous parts of the world. Learn more about these developing crises, from South Sudan to Syria.

**So, what is the solution? What can the US actually do in Gaza?**

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/570 "2026-09-21T18:21:40Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> So, what is the solution? What can the US actually do in Gaza?

Without the full cooperation of Israel, logistically, not a whole lot.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/571 "2026-09-21T18:48:38Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Azaiza confirms a number of facts that many of us have already suspected; for example, that all journalists in Gaza are part of a WhatsApp group where Hamas tells them what they can and cannot say.

Does he present information from neutral groups to support that position, or does he just tell you what you already believe?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/572 "2026-09-21T19:13:05Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> So, what is the solution? What can the US actually do in Gaza?

We can stop signifying our approval with these atrocities by giving money to the Israeli government. That may not stop the atrocities, but it would at least lessen US culpability. But there’s a lot more we could do – we could stop using our UN veto power to protect Israel from UN resolutions (at least on a case by case basis); we could provide additional support and funding to peaceful Palestinian groups and groups that aid Palestinian civilians; we could fully sanction illegal Israeli settlements and settlers (and treat American orgs and citizens who fund them the same way we treat American orgs and citizens who fund Hamas and similar terrorist groups – and yes, I am directly comparing Israeli settlers and Hamas); we could publicly denounce Israeli atrocities and its government for allowing/causing them; all just off the top of my head.

This isn’t a “solution” to everything wrong in the region, but it’s the bare minimum of what we should be doing, morally speaking, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/573 "2026-09-21T19:39:15Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Does he present information from neutral groups to support that position,

No, even better: he presents information from a group that’s heavily biased _against_ revealing that the journalists are being fed lines by Hamas in a WhatsApp group - namely, Gaza journalists, because he himself is one.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/574 "2026-09-21T19:42:09Z")

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How is that supposedly better? Supporting what I want to hear no matter what biased side I get it from is not _my_ thing.

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