# New discussion thread for Israel/Gaza/West Bank (Hijacks tolerated) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** israel-hamas-war, hijacks-tolerated\ **Created:** [July 12, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615 "2026-07-12T00:17:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2026, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/675 "2026-10-12T22:39:11Z")
“The dissolution of the state of Israel” sounds like an extreme ethnic-cleaning position, not a Zionist (whatever that means) or anti-Zionist position. Unless someone means establishing an anarchist utopia, which is certainly extreme left, but has nothing to do with Israel specifically. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2026, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/676 "2026-10-12T23:34:21Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Thus my original question. …I have a question for you. Out of all the things I talked about in my post, the genocide, the ethnic cleansing, the countless atrocities that are still being committed to this day, the thousands of Palestinians locked up in torture camps, you decided to respond to the thing that I said _I had no interest in debating_ and had _no opinion on_. My question is, why? As I said, the word obviously means different things to different people. So I’m less concerned about whether or not “‘Zionism is racism’ help or hurt the cause of stopping genocide” and more curious as to what _your_ position is on what, including a majority of people that will [likely vote for the Dems](https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/polls/democrats-sanctions-israel), many are calling genocide. If you don’t want to call it a genocide thats fine. But do you acknowledge that Israel have committed countless atrocities since October the 7th and those responsible and those that committed them should be held to account? Because how I’m choosing to stop the genocide is to keep lightning focused on it. I choose not to get distracted by things that materially don’t matter. Hence, “I have zero opinion on Zionism.” The other thing is you aren’t being very specific. And you appear to be conflating multiple ideas. It’s hard to debate your _interpretation_ of things. I have no interest or desire to do that. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/677 "2026-10-12T23:35:17Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > “The dissolution of the state of Israel” sounds like an extreme ethnic-cleaning position, not a Zionist (whatever that means) or anti-Zionist position. It’s literally what “anti-Zionist” is. Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people should achieve self determination through statehood; anti-Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people should not have a state. > [@DPRK](#): > > Unless someone means establishing an anarchist utopia, which is certainly extreme left, but has nothing to do with Israel specifically. That is certainly one reason one could be anti-Zionist - the belief that states shouldn’t exist at all, or perhaps the only slightly less extreme position that no peoples should have self determonation or a state and every polity on the planet must adopt civic based nationhood (although I doubt that such a person, if they actually existed in the real world [which I highly doubt], would define themselves as anti-Zionist without clarification; it would be a bit like a militant atheist proudly identifying himself as an Islamophobe or Antisemite before clarifying that actually they hate ALL religions). ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2026, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/678 "2026-10-12T23:41:50Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Tell that to Greta Thurnberg and the millions of demonstrators , and the dozens of Dopers on this board, who openly and proudly support Hamas and its tactics. …this was how Greta Thurnberg was treated when captured by Israeli forces: > [@](#): > > Her red suitcase lies in the hall. “Whore Greta” someone has written in large black letters. Around the text: an Israeli flag and an erect penis. > > The bag was confiscated by the Israeli military from the boat – and returned to her like this. > … > – They dragged me to the opposite side from where the others were sitting, and I had the flag around me the whole time. They hit and kicked me. > … > **Every time someone looked up** from the ground, they were knocked back down to the ground, Greta and the other Swedes recount. In the corner where Greta was sitting, the police placed a flag. > > – The flag was placed so that it would touch me. When it fluttered and touched me, they shouted ‘Don’t touch the flag’ and kicked me in the side. After a while, my hands were tied with cable ties, very tightly. A bunch of guards lined up to take selfies with me while I was sitting like that. > … > **Suddenly, the far-right minister Itamar Ben-Gvir entered** the area and stood in front of everyone, Greta recounts. > > – He shouted, ’You are terrorists. You want to kill Jewish babies.’ Those who shouted back were taken aside and beaten. They were thrown to the ground and beaten. But I could only see it out of the corner of my eye, because every time I lifted my head from the ground, I was kicked by the guard standing next to me. > … > Greta was then taken into a building to be searched and undressed. > > – The guards have no empathy or humanity, and they keep taking selfies with me. There’s a lot I don’t remember. So much is happening at once. You’re in shock. You’re in pain, but you go into a state of trying to stay calm. > > Suddenly, she is dragged into a cleaning closet where she is forced to her knees. > … > In prison, she is held in different cells. Sometimes a cell of around 15 square meters with 13 other prisoners. There are many days—four? Time blurs together, there were no clocks. They receive hardly any food and no clean water during their entire captivity, but are forced to drink from the tap in the toilet sink, where something brown flows. Several became ill. > **[Greta Thunberg: “They kicked me every time the flag touched my face”](https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/25LgKq/greta-thunberg-they-kicked-me-every-time-the-flag-touched-my-face)** > > – Greta Thunberg on her days in Israeli captivity Beating, kicking, and threats of being gassed in cages. Greta Thunberg and several others from the flotilla ar A reminder that the “crime” here was trying to breach an illegal blockade to get food and aid to a populace experiencing genocide. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/679 "2026-10-13T00:04:16Z")
> [@@colinfred](#): > > You’ve forgotter about how they will occasionally look at their watch, notice it’s time to say say “obviously I condemn October7…” then get right back to reciting Hamas propaganda and blasting Israel for defending themselves. …I obviously condemn October the 7th. I condemned it back on October the 7th. I have condemned Hamas multiple times. I don’t recite “Hamas propaganda.” I don’t “blast Israel for defending themselves.” I said at the time and I say it right now that they have a right to defend themselves. I also think that the way they responded to October the 7th was wrong, and they have crossed a line. I think that we should be able to criticize anyone who is responsible for atrocities and war crimes without being accused of being a propagandist. I don’t think thats too much to ask for. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/680 "2026-10-13T00:10:22Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > anti-Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people should not have a state Maybe it means this to you, but there are plenty of people who mean something totally different. Like it or not, the term has multiple meanings. ---
**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/681 "2026-10-13T00:12:06Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > I also think that the way they responded to October the 7th was wrong, and they have crossed a line. I wonder if the Israeli military actually believed their scorched-earth tactics would dislodge Hamas, or some such miscalculation? They were not wrong in some sense— it is not like Hamas emerged unscathed— but now Gaza is FUBAR and I am not sure what the military goal is/was. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/682 "2026-10-13T00:50:01Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > Out of all the things I talked about in my post, the genocide, the ethnic cleansing, the countless atrocities that are still being committed to this day, the thousands of Palestinians locked up in torture camps, you decided to respond to the thing that I said _I had no interest in debating_ and had _no opinion on_. > > My question is, why? …Because that’s not the specific topic I was interested in at that particular moment? Why am I required to address the rest of it just because you brought it up? I wouldn’t have asked to begin with if hijacks weren’t specifically allowed. And because I thought what I had to say might change your mind about the relevance of my original question. I failed, and that’s fine. But I’m bewildered myself that you seem to be implying that I don’t care about genocide for the sole reason that you brought it up and I didn’t respond directly to it. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Maybe it means this to you, but there are plenty of people who mean something totally different. Like it or not, the term has multiple meanings. Exactly why I asked if it was a mainstream view. Though the identity of the poster you were responding to might be relevant data itself… ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/683 "2026-10-13T01:28:53Z")
> [@DPRK](#): > > I wonder if the Israeli military actually believed their scorched-earth tactics would dislodge Hamas, or some such miscalculation? They were not wrong in some sense— it is not like Hamas emerged unscathed— but now Gaza is FUBAR and I am not sure what the military goal is/was. …so for the sake of clarity, I believe that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. The definition of genocide is governed by the genocide convention. > [@Genocide Convention](#): > > In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts **committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group** , as such: > > (a) Killing members of the group; > > (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; > > (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; > > (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; > > (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. [https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide](https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocide) Bolding mine. So I don’t believe that the “scorched-earth tactics” were used to dislodge Hamas. I believe that the people that are in control of this war intended to destroy, in whole or in part, the Palestinian people. That’s what genocide _is_. If we are going to use the term, we should be crystal clear exactly what we are talking about. I think intent has been shown by the words used by the people in control, by the tactics that have deliberately targeted the places that people live, the healthcare system, food and aid, the places that people go to worship, schools, and universities. I think multiple different organisations from Amnesty International to Human Rights Watch to the United Nations to a broad consensus of genocide scholars have all presented sufficient evidence that we were talking about any other country would have been more than enough to accept. There is an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that was issued by the International Court of Justice for (among other things) _starvation as a method of warfare_. Starvation isn’t a thing that targets Hamas. Starvation isn’t a thing that would dislodge Hamas. The policy of using starvation as a method of warfare ultimately led to [famine in parts of Gaza](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_famine) and the deaths of at least 440 people. Often Israeli forces would ban fishing. Even outside of those bans, Palestinian fishermen report regularly getting fired on. Israel are still only letting in a fraction of what they agreed to during the ceasefire and strictly control what food does and doesn’t get into the strip. At one stage Israel took over food distribution and forced people that wanted food to try and get to one of only five food distribution points for over 2 million people. And getting through to those distribution points included running a [hunger-games-style gauntlet that ultimately resulted in 2600 Palestinians killed and thousands more wounded](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Strip_aid_distribution_killings). I think that the starvation tactics and the control of food and water (including targeting [desalination plants](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/03/israels-decision-to-cut-off-electricity-supply-to-gaza-desalination-plant-cruel-and-unlawful/)) are probably the clearest signal, among many other signals, that Hamas were not the target of these scorched earth tactics. So I don’t believe there was a miscalcuation here. I think there are people in power who don’t think the Israeli military have gone far enough. I think the intent is to eventually remove as many Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank as they can. I think that the plans articulated by the so-called “Gaza Board of Peace” that has Donald Trump as the chairman for life and his son-in-law on the executive board, make that clear. If Palestinians do stay in Gaza, they will be treated as second-class citizens. These tactics _have_ effectively removed Hamas. But in the eyes of international law these tactics were atrocities and warcrimes. And these should never be acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/684 "2026-10-13T01:41:30Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Why am I required to address the rest of it just because you brought it up? …you aren’t required to do _anything_. I was just asking the question. But in case I wasn’t clear before: I have no interest in debating Zionism, and I have no opinion on Zionism. > [@Leaper](#): > > And because I thought what I had to say might change your mind about the relevance of my original question. Nope. Still got no opinion on it. Still not going to debate it. > [@Leaper](#): > > But I’m bewildered myself that you seem to be implying that I don’t care about genocide for the sole reason that you brought it up and I didn’t respond directly to it. I don’t know if you care about genocide in general or not. But I’m allowed to be curious, just like you. Because every “leftist” I know personally doesn’t care about what you bought up. I know that isn’t what would be regarded as a testable sample size. But thats the best I’ve got. Some of the people who _do_ care I wouldn’t describe as “leftists.” They are Palestinian, and they have strong feelings about Zionism because every single interaction they have with Zionism has been formed by directly interacting with it, and I don’t know enough about Zionism to be able to offer an informed opinion, so I’m not going to offer an opinion here. Because the word means different things to different people. But all of the “leftists” I know are only concerned about the genocide and the ethnic cleansing and the warcrimes and atrocities and they want it to stop. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/685 "2026-10-13T01:46:32Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Exactly why I asked if it was a mainstream view. Is what a mainstream view? Anti-Zionism? No, it is vanishingly rare among Jews, according to this survey: > **[Among American Jews, views on Jewish identity and Israel vary by religiosity...](https://apnorc.org/projects/among-american-jews-views-on-jewish-identity-and-israel-vary-by-religiosity/)** > > Forty percent of religiously affiliated Jewish adults feel very or extremely emotionally attached to Israel and 48% say supporting Israel is a key part of their Jewish identity. Among secular Jews, only 11% say they are emotionally attached to Israel... > [@](#): > > Only about 1 in 10 of both religious and secular Jews describe themselves as “anti-Zionist.” Or is the idea that there should not be a Jewish state mainstream within the subset of people who are anti-Zionist? I punched that into Google and got the following response: > [@](#): > > what percent of people who define themselves as anti-Zionist think that Israel shouldn’t exist > [@](#): > > By definition, **anti-Zionism** is the political or ideological opposition to Zionism (the movement for the self-determination and statehood of the Jewish people in their ancestral homeland). In standard political science and polling terminology, people who self-identify as anti-Zionist explicitly oppose the existence of Israel as a sovereign Jewish state, meaning **essentially 100%** of those who strictly and consciously define themselves as anti-Zionist reject Israel’s legitimacy or right to exist in that form. [[1](https://jewishdems.org/new-op-ed-what-it-means-to-be-pro-israel-in-2026/), [2](https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-many-american-jews-are-anti-zionists/)] I don’t know why people are trying to sanewash anti-Zionism. But it’s not particularly convincing. ---
**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/686 "2026-10-13T03:48:25Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > There is an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that was issued by the International Court of Justice …correction: I should have said the International Criminal Court. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/687 "2026-10-13T03:53:34Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I don’t know why people are trying to sanewash anti-Zionism. Because they can’t openly say what they really want to say about Israeli statehood. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/688 "2026-10-13T06:27:39Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Zionism is the belief that the Jewish people should achieve self determination through statehood; …by colonizing Palestine and installing a demographic majority. You left that bit out. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/689 "2026-10-13T06:30:03Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > …by colonizing Palestine and installing a demographic majority. Sounds to me like your beef is with the Ottoman Empire, then. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/690 "2026-10-13T06:32:11Z")
No, obviously it’s with the Romans. No, wait, the Babylonians… 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/691 "2026-10-13T11:06:44Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > …by colonizing Palestine Bingo! That was the last buzzword I needed! 🥳 The narrative that Israelis “colonized” Palestine strips the Jewish people of their indigenousness. Israel is the only successful example of a decolonization project. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/692 "2026-10-13T11:21:04Z")
Now we’re onto settler denial! I think that’s a new one for you. Greater Israel, right Babs? It all belongs to the Jews, no matter who’s living there, and how long they’ve been there? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/693 "2026-10-13T12:33:23Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The narrative that Israelis “colonized” Palestine strips the Jewish people of their indigenousness. My great grandfather came here from Germany over one hundred years ago, do I have German indigenousness? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2026, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615/694 "2026-10-13T13:01:23Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > The narrative that Israelis “colonized” Palestine strips the Jewish people of their indigenousness. Some Jews can be indigenous to Palestine while others can be colonizers. Zionism was very much the project of the latter. They said as much: “Zionism is a colonizing adventure”. I wonder who said that…OK, I don’t wonder, it was this guy: > **[Iron Wall (essay)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Wall_(essay))** > > "About the Iron Wall" (Russian: О железной стене, romanized: O zheleznoy stene), often shortened to "The Iron Wall", is an essay written in 1923 by Ze'ev Jabotinsky. It was originally written in Russian and published by the Russian press. Jabotinsky wrote the essay after British Colonial Secretary Winston Churchill prohibited Zionist settlement on the east bank of the Jordan River. Jabotinsky formed the Zionist Revisionism party after writing the essay. Jabotinsky argued that the Palestinian Ara... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discussion-thread-for-israel-gaza-west-bank-hijacks-tolerated/1031615.md?page=35)