Just pointing out to everyone else what your post was actually saying, coded as it was.
And it was hardly “detective work” to anyone who knows what nominative determinism is. Just had to look up what particular ugly slur “moser” was going to turn out to be.
Nope, just noting that particular post was an instance of the same for those who might have missed it. Digging for your previous posts would be some kind of personalization , I’m wanting to stick with the flow of the thread as-is and address actual posts here, as per the moderation on this thread.
And now, noting that that was the only response you made to that article.
The link between the German name, and this Talmudic term, isn’t. They are not pronounced even remotely alike, nor written in the same alphabet. I do not get the joke.
Preposterous. Though, plenty of German Jews had no need to adopt the name “Moser” since that was already their name.
Because he isn’t just pointing this out as a curious fact; he is trying to imply that I agree with those kinds of people. Which I don’t; I think Rabin was the greatest prime minister of my life, if not ever.
The IDF detains dozens of peaceful activists, including NYC House candidate Brad Lander, for the crime of helping Palestinians harvest their olives in the West Bank:
So it’s the people who are protecting olive harvesters from settler and IDF violence who are “inciting elements to provoke violence?” Absolutely disgusting.
Your own post was what implied that. No other reason for posting that Moser’s name sounds like מוסר, even in “jest” . It added nothing to the conversation other than introducing that slur into it.
About Rabin? Nope. But you’re just disagreeing about which Jews you’d apply the slur to, not that the slur is a slur. Jews like Benjamin Moser…
So it looks like you were raising the slur in this thread to link Moser and מוסר…so this:
it must be the “actually” that makes a difference, I’m guessing? You linked them but you didn’t use the word itself? Because your “joke” was certainly very clearly you applying the word to him.
What’s your definition of slur? If you just mean “a disparaging term”, then sure. If you mean the more common definition of a term that’s offensive because it’s about a protected characteristic, then no, calling someone a collaborator isn’t a slur, even if you do it in a foreign language.
Why are you guessing when that’s exactly what I wrote down?
Yeah, he’s not an actual moser because he’s not living in an 18th century ghetto. It’s funny that he is a useful idiot for antisemites (just like the original mosers) while having the last name Moser, though.
OK.
I don’t know why you’re portraying this as something you are opposed to when you’ve previously talked about your own usage of the terms “Uncle Tom” or, as you said you prefer, “House X”. Do you really think that chuckling about an anti-Zionist named Moser is more offensive than calling gay people you think are serving homophobic interests “House Gays”? Or do you just disagree that he is acting against the Jewish community’s interests but are fine with offensive terminology usage for harsh criticism of people?
I’m going by the wording of the Jerusalem Post, ask them what definition they’re using.
That’s not the more common definition.
I’m not guessing as to the word you wrote, I’m guessing as to the difference you seem to think it makes.
Wow, I guess those people shouting it in 21st C. Brooklyn didn’t really mean it either…
This paragraph would have relevance when I call someone a “House X” in this thread. It’s not about me. Or really about you, other than you being the author of the post in question. It’s about the post effectively calling Moser a moser.
If you want to discuss my posts from outside this thread on “Uncle Tom” or “House X”[1], I’m happy to follow up in the Pit in either your or my dedicated Pit thread.
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Never actually used “House Gays” outside a hypothetical ↩︎
A lot of the Orthodox Jews living in Brooklyn seem to think that they are indeed living in an 18th century European ghetto, so it’s certainly possible that they did.
Not really interested, as long as we are in agreement that you don’t actually have any kind of moral objection to calling people terms that mean they are collaborators with the people who want to oppress them and that you don’t actually find such terms “particularly ugly”, which at this point it seems like we are.
@Babale - these topics are sensitive enough without personalizing the arguments, of which your most recent post is a slight but hardly singular example in this thread. Also do not put words in other posters mouth by implication, whatever you think of them. If you want to personalize arguments take it to the Pit, you both know where it is.
I assume the IDF can clear them out under the pretext of entering a “closed military area”, or some such excuse. It is not like there is some intricate due process involved.
P.S. it is chilling that the military seems linked to, or facilitating, some of those squads of settlers, millitia, terrorists, criminals, etc. That is fucked up and scary.
it must be the “actually” that makes a difference, I’m guessing? You linked them but you didn’t use the word itself? Because your “joke” was certainly very clearly you applying the word to him.