# New Discworld book - MAKING MONEY

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**Created:** [May 26, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583 "2007-05-26T06:44:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/1 "2007-05-26T06:44:04Z")

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Release date for UK - 24/9 (1st October for US) according to Amazon.

Synopsis reminds me of GOING POSTAL (conman goes straight, needs to turn around a failing business, interested parties want him to fail). Still, I have every Discworld book and I look forward to adding this one to the collection.

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**Author:** ![neorxnawange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@neorxnawange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neorxnawange)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/2 "2007-05-26T06:55:14Z")

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[QUOTE=DataZak]  
Release date for UK - 24/9 (1st October for US) according to Amazon.

Synopsis reminds me of GOING POSTAL (conman goes straight, needs to turn around a failing business, interested parties want him to fail). Still, I have every Discworld book and I look forward to adding this one to the collection.  
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It should remind you of Going Postal since it is a continuation of Moist Von Lipwig’s story at the end of Going Postal. Now he’ll be taking over the Ankh-Morpork Mint, and I assume the Grand Trunk as well. Hopefully Adora Belle Dearheart will be back as well - there is something so “pineapple prickly” about her. Will Reacher Gilt return as nemesis?  
I can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/3 "2007-05-26T06:58:58Z")

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[QUOTE=neorxnawange]  
It should remind you of Going Postal since it is a continuation of Moist Von Lipwig’s story at the end of Going Postal. Now he’ll be taking over the Ankh-Morpork Mint, and I assume the Grand Trunk as well. Hopefully Adora Belle Dearheart will be back as well - there is something so “pineapple prickly” about her. Will Reacher Gilt return as nemesis?  
I can’t wait.  
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Read the epilogue to GP. Vetinari does the “go through that door and I promise you will never hear from me again” routine, he thoughtlessly does so and plummets fifty-odd feet to his death. It is wise to listen to _exactly_ what the Patrician says.

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**Author:** ![DataZak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@DataZak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataZak)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/4 "2007-05-26T07:11:48Z")

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[QUOTE=neorxnawange]  
It should remind you of Going Postal since it is a continuation of Moist Von Lipwig’s story at the end of Going Postal. Now he’ll be taking over the Ankh-Morpork Mint, and I assume the Grand Trunk as well. Hopefully Adora Belle Dearheart will be back as well - there is something so “pineapple prickly” about her. Will Reacher Gilt return as nemesis?  
I can’t wait.  
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Of course. It’s the same guy :smack: Had a brain-fart, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/5 "2007-05-26T11:28:00Z")

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Pre-ordered it a couple of weeks ago, on Amazon. 🙂

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/6 "2007-05-26T16:17:09Z")

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I’ve had my pre-order in on this one for months, ever since it went up on [Amazon.uk](http://Amazon.uk). About time we got another “adult” Discworld book!

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**Author:** ![neorxnawange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@neorxnawange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neorxnawange)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/7 "2007-05-26T20:32:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Read the epilogue to GP. Vetinari does the “go through that door and I promise you will never hear from me again” routine, he thoughtlessly does so and plummets fifty-odd feet to his death. It is wise to listen to _exactly_ what the Patrician says.  
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Doh! I completely forgot. One can learn a lot from Vetinari.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/8 "2007-05-27T00:16:13Z")

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[QUOTE=neorxnawange]  
Doh! I completely forgot. One can learn a lot from Vetinari.  
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Unfortunately, one often has only a very brief time to enjoy the knowledge gleaned…

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/9 "2007-05-27T01:45:14Z")

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[QUOTE=jayjay]  
Unfortunately, one often has only a very brief time to enjoy the knowledge gleaned…  
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Let’s see…50 feet times 9.8 meters/sec/sec…carry the 3…

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/10 "2007-05-27T05:24:22Z")

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So Moist is getting his own sub-series? Cool. I like Moist. Now that Rincewind has been dropped (finally) and the Witches are semi-retired, we need a new regular.

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**Author:** ![MilTan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@MilTan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MilTan)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/11 "2007-05-27T07:30:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Alessan]  
So Moist is getting his own sub-series? Cool. I like Moist. Now that Rincewind has been dropped (finally) and the Witches are semi-retired, we need a new regular.  
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Agreed. _Going Postal_ was one of my favorite Discworld books in quite a while. It was paced very well, and Moist is a very likable character…

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/12 "2007-05-27T12:13:11Z")

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Definitely. Moist is a good character to work with in the extended Ankh-Morpork setting. I was pleased when I found out that he would be coming back.

A real problem that has occurred in the series, I think, is that the setting has become just too refined. Pratchett can’t set everything back to the status quo in every book, but at the same time things might have progressed a little too far. Part of the strength of Night Watch, I think, was throwing the watch back into a more nasty framework. Comedy playing off the tragedy.

Going Postal brought some of that back and Pratchett can probably get a few more books along the same lines out of Moist until he becomes the next Patrician. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/13 "2007-05-27T12:22:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Malacandra]  
Read the epilogue to GP. Vetinari does the “go through that door and I promise you will never hear from me again” routine, he thoughtlessly does so and plummets fifty-odd feet to his death. It is wise to listen to _exactly_ what the Patrician says.  
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[spoiler]Thoughtlessly?

No. Gilt knew exactly what was through that door. That was the choice he made.  
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**Author:** ![Captain\_C](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Captain\_C](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_C)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/14 "2007-05-27T20:00:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Orbifold]

[spoiler]Thoughtlessly?

No. Gilt knew exactly what was through that door. That was the choice he made.  
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Are you sure? My take was that he was in such a hurry that he didn’t stop to think.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/15 "2007-05-27T20:03:25Z")

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That’s my take on it as well. Reacher wasn’t all that smart, when you get down to it. Cunning, but not even in the same sport much less league as Vetenari.

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**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/16 "2007-05-27T22:39:12Z")

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I don’t have it in front of me; I read a library copy. But that’s my recollection of the final scene. Vetinari wasn’t trying to deceive anyone; the consequences of the choice he was offering were clear even if he didn’t state them explicitly. It’s not as if Vetinari has trouble making himself understood…

Also, I have to disagree with you _silenus_. I think Gilt was smart, possibly smarter than Moist. Moist, in the end, was perhaps more imaginative and had certain edges (read: contacts) that Gilt didn’t anticipate. But if Gilt wasn’t smart he couldn’t have been conned in quite the way that he was.

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**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/17 "2007-05-28T00:53:27Z")

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Gilt was smart, but he was also arrogant. IIRR, wasn’t he being offered a post under the Patrician, in the same fashion as Moist?

Darn, now I’ll have to go home and reread the book. Curse my bad luck! 😉

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/18 "2007-05-28T00:55:12Z")

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He was offered the position Moist takes in the new book: running the mint. He refused an offer that he couldn’t refuse.

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**Author:** ![Mrs.Cake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2acd7d/32.png) [@Mrs.Cake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mrs.Cake)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/19 "2007-05-28T01:12:26Z")

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Yay! After a second reading Going Postal, Moist Von Lipwig became one of my favorite characters. I’m very happy to see that he isn’t a one-off. I see Simon Pegg in the role when they get around to making the movie.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2007, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-discworld-book-making-money/405583/20 "2007-05-28T01:27:04Z")

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At the risk of spoilers, what mint? I thought it was established that Ankh-Morpork ran mostly on account ledgers, with very little actual gold at all (see **Men at Arms** ), and that in a city where brass fittings have a lifetime of hours, even the coins were clipped. And Rincewind foresaw what would happen if the Agatean concept of paper notes was ever tried in a city full of skilled forgers. ( **Interesting Times** )

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