# New Disney and Pixar animated movies for the next five years **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 9, 2008, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578 "2008-04-09T08:37:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/41 "2008-04-09T20:39:37Z")
Given the power Lasseter was given after the buyout, I’d think a Pixar-fication of Disney is more likely than the reverse. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/42 "2008-04-09T20:46:16Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] FWIW, I far preferred _A Bug’s Life_ to _Ratatouille_. Looked just as good up on the screen, but with a better script and more interesting characters, IMHO. [/quote] Even so, it’s hard to argue that the plot for _A Bug’s Life_ was particularly original: it’s yet another reskin of _The Seven Samurai_. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but the complaint about _Ratatouille_ was that it relied on formula, and that this made it distinctive among the Pixar library. Clearly, this is not the case: Pixar has done highly original work, and Pixar has done formulaic work, and this can be seen as far back as their second major movie. > [@](#): > > In any event, Pixar has an excellent batting average, better than most studios. I find myself interested in seeing every movie they release, even if I don’t love all equally, and there is no other studio about which I can say that. No argument there. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/43 "2008-04-09T21:26:28Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] [Buzz Lightyear] TWO AMPHIBIANS - AND THEY BOND! [/BL] [/QUOTE] Ok everyone seems to think this is the funniest thing ever, but racking my brain as hard as I can (ow) I can’t figure out the reference. Mind you, it’s been a long time since I saw either of the Toy Story movies. In other news, I’m glad there is no sequel to “The Incredibles”… I’m apparently one of the three people on the planet who thought the first one was lame as hell. I never bothered to see the first “Cars” because it looked stupid… is it worth it? Normally I love Pixar movies, though. And I liked “A Bug’s Life”, despite Miller’s label as “their worst.” ---
**Author:** ![NajaNivea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NajaNivea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NajaNivea)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/44 "2008-04-09T21:30:43Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Ok everyone seems to think this is the funniest thing ever, but racking my brain as hard as I can (ow) I can’t figure out the reference. [/QUOTE] Buzz Lightyear’s catchphrase was “To infinity… and beyond!” Which, in and of itself, cracks me up. ETA: I didn’t bother to see Cars either because it looked stupid, but due to a confluence of events ended up with a copy of it in my possession. We watched it, it had its moments. I cracked up over the minor characters Luigi and one played by Tony Shalhoub. Otherwise? Meh. I liked it better than Ratatouille. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/45 "2008-04-09T21:47:59Z")
[QUOTE=NajaNivea] Buzz Lightyear’s catchphrase was “To infinity… and beyond!” Which, in and of itself, cracks me up. [/QUOTE] :smack: Ok I get it. I was totally trying to think of what Toy Story movie had anything about amphibians in it. Mind going down totally the wrong track there. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/46 "2008-04-09T21:51:40Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I never bothered to see the first “Cars” because it looked stupid… is it worth it? [/QUOTE] Yes, it is. Does it pale in comparison to some of the other Pixar movies? Maybe, but after all, those films did set a rather high standard. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/47 "2008-04-09T21:56:18Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I never bothered to see the first “Cars” because it looked stupid… is it worth it? [/QUOTE] No, it’s not. Dramatically inert, never particularly memorable, visually undistinctive, and way too long. There are plenty of other Pixar films that I think are vastly overrated (_Nemo, TS2_), but _Cars_ is still easily the most sub-par production the comany has released. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/48 "2008-04-09T21:57:45Z")
I thought _Finding Nemo_ was one of their best, actually. ---
**Author:** ![NajaNivea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NajaNivea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NajaNivea)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/49 "2008-04-09T21:59:59Z")
I could watch _Nemo_ over and over and over–largely for the art, though the story and voice acting are both great. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/50 "2008-04-09T22:01:17Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I never bothered to see the first “Cars” because it looked stupid… is it worth it? [/QUOTE] It’s OK: beautifully crafted, of course, but the most formulaic {and, dare I say it, “American”} of their movies. It feels weirdly dated: basically Thomas the Tank Engine with a gigantic budget. Cocky talking vehicles learning the True Meaning Of Friendship {TM} have been done to death, and “Cars” brings nothing new to the party. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/51 "2008-04-09T22:11:49Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] Normally I love Pixar movies, though. And I liked “A Bug’s Life”, despite Miller’s label as “their worst.” [/QUOTE] I liked it, too. Just not as much as _Toy Story_. Or _Finding Nemo_. Or _The Incredibles_. Or… well, you get the picture. It’s one of the worst Pixar movies, but is still better than 90% of the other crap out there. _Cars_, on the other hand, was just bad. Okay for a kids movie, I guess, but it doesn’t really bring anything for adults. The backgrounds are actually more interesting than the plot or the characters. (Actually, that’s not really that much of a slam: the film’s set in a Monument Valley-esque desert, and the backgrounds are really breathtaking. Probably not worth it if you can’t see it on the big screen, though.) ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Panic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/don_t_panic/32/398_2.png) [@Don\_t\_Panic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Panic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/52 "2008-04-09T22:25:59Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] I never bothered to see the first “Cars” because it looked stupid… is it worth it? [/QUOTE] I just want to say that [spoiler]seven-time Formula 1 world champ Michael Schumacher’s cameo in it made **no sense!** He shows up and he’s a Ferrari F430. Why isn’t he a Formula 1 car? How is a Ferrari F430 supposed to compete in F1? Or, alternatively but still not making sense, what kind of auto racing has Ferrari F430s in it? Bugged the heck out of me, that did.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/53 "2008-04-09T22:27:07Z")
_Cars_ is about 25-30 minutes too long, and almost all its problems would be mitigated in trimming it down. It would still be formulaic but at least it would move faster. The abstract listed for the planned seequel indicate it will be more focused on racing, which was the best part of the movie. Their slate looks good moving forward, I think. _WALL·E_ looks amazing, and I just noticed Ben Burtt listed as a voice actor and sound designer. Sweet! ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/54 "2008-04-09T22:45:17Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat] :smack: Ok I get it. I was totally trying to think of what Toy Story movie had anything about amphibians in it. Mind going down totally the wrong track there. [/QUOTE] I’m so glad you brought this up. I drew a complete blank, but didn’t want to be the one who looked stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/55 "2008-04-09T23:15:08Z")
I loved _Cars_ when I saw it in the theater, but didn’t think much of it when I saw it on DVD, so I probably liked it for the visuals. I’d say it’s not worth seeing if you don’t have access to a nice tv to watch it on. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/56 "2008-04-09T23:27:03Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I’m so glad you brought this up. I drew a complete blank, but didn’t want to be the one who looked stupid. [/QUOTE] No problem, I’m happy to look stupid in your place. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/57 "2008-04-09T23:34:59Z")
[QUOTE=Elendil’s Heir] I heard that an early draft of the script had a defective-product recall for Buzz to go back to a factory in South Korea, so Woody and the other toys have to go to his rescue. [/QUOTE] That was the plot Disney was going to use when they were going ahead with the sequel without Pixar. When they merged that story was scrapped, and instead they are going for the one Cervaise mentions, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/58 "2008-04-09T23:40:30Z")
I’ll agree that _A Bug’s Life_ wasn’t great. It certainly wasn’t as good as _Antz_, which came out around the same time. In my opinion, Pixar’s great movies are _Toy Story_, _Toy Story 2_, _Monsters, Inc._, and _Finding Nemo_. So _A Bug’s Life_ represents an atypical dip in a record of overall excellent filmmaking. But _Ratatouille_ represents the continuation of the trend that was started by _The Incredibles_ and _Cars_. Which is the kind of pattern you can only observe via my five year method. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/59 "2008-04-09T23:50:24Z")
For real? I thought _Antz_ was awful, but I really liked _A Bug’s Life_. ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578/60 "2008-04-09T23:52:02Z")
[QUOTE=GuanoLad] **Pixar:** [ul] [li]Cars 2 - An unnecessary sequel[/li][/ul] [/QUOTE] If that’s their real subtitle, then I can’t help but admire Pixar’s committment to truth in advertising. (Wasn’t it the Onion who proposed the title _Shrek 3: We’ll Keep Making These As Long As You Keep Buying Tickets_, or somesuch?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-disney-and-pixar-animated-movies-for-the-next-five-years/444578.md?page=4)