# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/181 "2011-05-01T18:20:01Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > There is also a hidden message in the first episode summary. > > [http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010tb7q](http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010tb7q) If nothing else, it is ever so _clever_ a bit of marketing to make the season a puzzler with clues buried in the shows web pages. Plus to have buried clues in the past season virtually guarantees sales of the DVDs to find them, or at least good ratings for the rebroadcasts of the reruns. I feel so … manipulated … but in a good way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/182 "2011-05-01T18:40:03Z")
Well, I do not feel good about that stuff. They did this kind of crap with Lost as well - little clues that you had to solve online puzzles to find, or call telephone numbers, or whatever. If the show creators want to do that stuff, I guess that’s OK, but I don’t really have the time or motivation for it, so I hope that all of the “extras” are just that: Extras, that are not necessary for understanding or figuring out the mysteries in the show. To be honest, the time travel stuff so far in this season has sort of made my head hurt, and I’m looking forward to a break from it (maybe) next week with a MOTW episode. I mean, I feel confident that Moffatt is going to pull it together and I’m not really complaining, I’m just saying, I’m having sort of a tough time with it and am hoping that we start to get more answers and fewer additional mysteries as the season progresses. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/183 "2011-05-01T18:46:56Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Well, I do not feel good about that stuff. They did this kind of crap with Lost as well - little clues that you had to solve online puzzles to find, or call telephone numbers, or whatever. If the show creators want to do that stuff, I guess that’s OK, but I don’t really have the time or motivation for it, so I hope that all of the “extras” are just that: Extras, that are not necessary for understanding or figuring out the mysteries in the show. The BBC did that when the show came back in 2005. Clive’s website and all that, but nothing they did made any difference to the TV show. There’s some fan stuff, I wouldn’t worry too much. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/184 "2011-05-01T18:48:25Z")
“TARDIS Blue”, Is that an actual color (colour) now? I loved it. I really enjoyed the pair of episodes. The time stuff and hints are fine, I don’t get caught up in it I guess. I’ll let others do the digging and read it here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/185 "2011-05-01T18:51:21Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > Well, I do not feel good about that stuff. They did this kind of crap with Lost as well - little clues that you had to solve online puzzles to find, or call telephone numbers, or whatever. If the show creators want to do that stuff, I guess that’s OK, but I don’t really have the time or motivation for it, so I hope that all of the “extras” are just that: Extras, that are not necessary for understanding or figuring out the mysteries in the show. They’ve done this stuff with Who since the first series with Eccleston, and it’s always been just little extras, not anything required for watching the show. I doubt very much if Moffat has anything to do with the hidden messages on the website. If he did, they’d be more interesting. Of course, Lost didn’t rely on those on-line extras, did it? Are you saying that if I spend the next six months downloading old ABC websites, the final episode will make sense? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/186 "2011-05-01T18:55:20Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Except if you read the review it’s actually fairly complimentary. > That one basically just says that the reviewer didn’t understand any of it, which says more about him than the show. > > Personally I think this is the sort of writing about time travel that should have been done long ago. Yes, it’s all wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey but when you’re hopping around time and space these things happen and it’s hard to follow in a linear fashion. I’ve always thought it would be nice to see future Doctors appearing (even as cameos) in episodes, just to keep in the spirit of the thing. Heck, it would be cool to do an “N-Doctors” episode where you see it once from one Doctor’s perspective and then, post-regeneration, get the rest of the story from the next Doctor’s viewpoint. That’s the problem. You can’t have future Doctors appear, as we don’t know who will play them yet. It would have to be a flashback style episode. Or maybe near the end of one Doctor’s run: I’m sure they had Smith lined up in time that he could have appeared at the end of Tennant’s run. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/187 "2011-05-01T19:36:14Z")
I watched both episodes, but I’m coming at this as something of a Doctor Who virgin. (I have tried to watch episodes from time to time but found the show kind of childish and the special effects cheesy. Although I did like Torchwood.) But I enjoyed both episodes (they seemed darker and more mature than what I’ve sampled previously). I did gather from watching these two episodes and reading about them here and elsewhere that there’s an enormous amount of back story that I’m not familiar with but it was well-written enough that I was able to follow along. So I’ll stick with it, and perhaps go back and watch the last series or two. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/188 "2011-05-01T20:09:15Z")
The Silence reminds me a lot of The [Gentlemen](http://buffy.wikia.com/wiki/The_Gentlemen)from Buffy’s episode “Hush”. StG ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/189 "2011-05-01T21:27:56Z")
I’m sort of wondering why the Doctor didn’t introduce himself to Nixon as being on loan from UNIT. ---
**Author:** ![MJinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@MJinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MJinks)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/190 "2011-05-01T22:01:40Z")
The second episode showed us that mankind only went to the moon so The Silence could get hold of a space suit. The Silence have been influencing humans for a very long time (how long?). If that’s the case then isn’t it possible that if The Silence fall then Human technological advancement could stagnate? That sounds like a serious threat. A bit like the parasitic symbiotic relationship used in a few other science fiction shows (Stargate Goa’uld or Star Trek Trill symbiont). I fell like I should stop watching Doctor Who and then pick up the box-set later and watch it all in one go. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/191 "2011-05-01T22:11:29Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I’m sort of wondering why the Doctor didn’t introduce himself to Nixon as being on loan from UNIT. Perhaps because of newbies like me, for whom UNIT would be unfamiliar? (I mean, I could easily figure out what’s meant via a simple Google search, but I think some viewers would be turned off if the show requires too much advance knowledge.) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/192 "2011-05-01T22:32:14Z")
I do deeeeeeclare the man running the abandoned orphanage did have the MOST annoyin accent. I suppose since Florida is “south” the Brits think people living there sound like they’re straight out of Driving Miss Daisy? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/193 "2011-05-01T22:51:25Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > I fell like I should stop watching Doctor Who and then pick up the box-set later and watch it all in one go. I am DVRing the season and saving them so I can watch them all in a go one saturday with lots of munchies and drink. My take is the little girl is both River Song and the daughter of Amy and Rory, time lorded because of all the tardis interaction. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/194 "2011-05-01T22:56:04Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > …I fell like I should stop watching Doctor Who and then pick up the box-set later and watch it all in one go. You may know that Doctor Who ran from 1963 to 1989; it was revived in 2005. The seasons of New Who that starred Christopher Eccleston & David Tennant are all available on Netflix Streaming. The previous year with Matt Smith as the Doctor are On Demand on my cable system. So you could catch up on all the recent stuff pretty easily. (Many Older Who adventures are also on Netflix Streaming, too.) Or you could just continue watching & ask questions! Or check out[The Internet](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who). It’s not really hard. It is still a children’s show. A _scary_ children’s show that appeals to adults, too. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/195 "2011-05-01T23:51:20Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > I’m sort of wondering why the Doctor didn’t introduce himself to Nixon as being on loan from UNIT. They probably didn’t want to open up the UNIT dating controversey. Or Moffat actually has a position on it, and that’s that ‘the original intent of having the stories in the 80s holds’, meaning that the Doctor wasn’t attached to UNIT in 1969, and in fact, wouldn’t encounter UNIT itself for something like another year (although he’d met the Brigadier in 1966). ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/196 "2011-05-02T00:54:36Z")
Just watched again. Bloody hell, I wouldn’t like to get on the wrong side of River Song. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/197 "2011-05-02T04:26:43Z")
BTW, I am seriously considering getting back into Doctor who fanvidding, because I have a great tune for a sweet Rory/Amy vid after his “She can always hear me” speech to the Doctor. It’s by Amanda Stott, called “You can always reach me.” ---
**Author:** ![Pantani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/87869e/32.png) [@Pantani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantani)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/198 "2011-05-02T05:23:09Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I do deeeeeeclare the man running the abandoned orphanage did have the MOST annoyin accent. > > I suppose since Florida is “south” the Brits think people living there sound like they’re straight out of Driving Miss Daisy? 😛 He was also called Renfrew, who was one of Dracula’s mortal minions. I felt that he rather played the part up as that character well. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/199 "2011-05-02T05:46:11Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Just watched again. Bloody hell, I wouldn’t like to get on the wrong side of River Song. You know what got me? The Daleks are afraid of her. They’re not afraid of the Doctor, but they’re \*terrified \*of her. ---
**Author:** ![yastobaal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/258eb7/32.png) [@yastobaal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yastobaal)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/200 "2011-05-02T07:13:23Z")
> [@MJinks](#): > > The second episode showed us that mankind only went to the moon so The Silence could get hold of a space suit. The Silence have been influencing humans for a very long time (how long?). If that’s the case then isn’t it possible that if The Silence fall then Human technological advancement could stagnate? That sounds like a serious threat. Do you mean like twelve people walking on the moon by 1972 but no more since? Concorde being the only supersonic passenger jet? 🙂 As to the last two episodes, I liked them but I get the feeling I’ll like them more when the whole story is complete by the end of the season. At the moment my brain is all full of theories , and reading the spoilers full of peoples thoughts about who’s the mother and who River is isn’t helping. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=11)