# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/301 "2011-05-10T00:48:45Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Even assuming the two corpses we saw were of different species (as we don’t get a good look at the back of the head of the skeleton they find first, nor the face of **the one whose boogers the Doctor plants his hand in** ) - neither of those species have either of the noticeable features alone, either. [bolding mine] Did anyone else wonder how the boogers survived when the alien was a skeleton? And I think Amy is related to the little girl in some way, even if it is as a “host” mother. The Silence specifically told her that “We do you honor. You will bring the Silence.” So first, they needed a human female to carry the baby (cue Flying Saucer abduction stories with medical experiments), and then they needed something humans would recognize as not inimical to keep the child alive once delivered. Of course, that leaves the fact that the Silence already existed and didn’t need to be “brought” as a rather large loose end. Plus, where did they come from originally? They obviously arrived after the lizard dudes went into hibernation. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/302 "2011-05-10T05:18:57Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Something that my wife and I both noticed this episode. > > At one point we’ve got Amy, Rory, Toby, and the two remaining pirates (apart from the Captain) locked in a room. The two pirates are going to leave, and Toby cuts one of them with the cutlass. > > Then, the other pirate decides it’s time to go it alone, and he runs off and grabs the treasure, only to be eaten by the Siren because of the crown. > > …and when we get back to the room the other pirate seems to have vanished. What happened? Did we both miss something? > > Oh - and has nobody postulated that the TARDIS is somehow wounded, which is why the Siren grabbed it? > > -Joe I also wondered about the alien boogers and missing pirate. I have no answers for you. Perhaps alien boogers maintain their … viscosity even after leaving the alien’s nose? > [@Morgyn](#): > > [bolding mine] > > Did anyone else wonder how the boogers survived when the alien was a skeleton? > > And I think Amy is related to the little girl in some way, even if it is as a “host” mother. The Silence specifically told her that “We do you honor. You will bring the Silence.” > > So first, they needed a human female to carry the baby (cue Flying Saucer abduction stories with medical experiments), and then they needed something humans would recognize as not inimical to keep the child alive once delivered. > > Of course, that leaves the fact that the Silence already existed and didn’t need to be “brought” as a rather large loose end. Plus, where did they come from originally? They obviously arrived after the lizard dudes went into hibernation. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/303 "2011-05-10T12:24:10Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > I saw the tea-slurping fog-breathing version and no, it wasn’t BBCA doing a hack job this time. > > -Joe BBCamerica mostly runs the shows uncut–with commercials added per our quaint Yank customs. If they do edits, the longer version can be seen On Demand–part of most cable packages. Matt Smith’s first year is on view through this October; the first episode, as aired, was missing: > [@](#): > > Doctor: You know when grownups tell you, “Everything’s gonna be fine” and you think they’re probably lying to make you feel better? > Amelia: Yeah. > Doctor: Everything’s gonna be fine. But every bit is available On Demand! For some of the “specials” in Tennant’s last year, the full length will occasionally make the regular schedule; at other times, a slightly trimmed version is shown. BBCamerica has been doing a better job than Syfy did… ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/304 "2011-05-10T12:40:53Z")
I’m not in a position to check… At what point in the missing pirate sequence does eye patch’s hatch show up? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![zeldarae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f14d63/32.png) [@zeldarae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zeldarae)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/305 "2011-05-10T17:25:07Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > I’m not in a position to check… > > At what point in the missing pirate sequence does eye patch’s hatch show up? > > -Joe When Rory and Amy were sleeping on the floor, Amy opened her eyes and saw Eye Patch. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/306 "2011-05-10T17:34:05Z")
> [@zeldarae](#): > > When Rory and Amy were sleeping on the floor, Amy opened her eyes and saw Eye Patch. I’m just thinking along the lines that maybe Amy is having her memories reviewed and edited. The pirate just plain vanishing could have been due to the editing. Kind of like Deja Vu in the Matrix. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/307 "2011-05-11T00:19:49Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > I saw the tea-slurping fog-breathing version and no, it wasn’t BBCA doing a hack job this time. > > -Joe Yeah, I got that upon reading the thread, but as I was watching it, I just assumed. > [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > BBCamerica mostly runs the shows uncut–with commercials added per our quaint Yank customs. If they do edits, the longer version can be seen On Demand–part of most cable packages. Matt Smith’s first year is on view through this October; the first episode, as aired, was missing: > But every bit is available On Demand! > > For some of the “specials” in Tennant’s last year, the full length will occasionally make the regular schedule; at other times, a slightly trimmed version is shown. > > BBCamerica has been doing a better job than Syfy did… I remember when they were showing that sitcom about high school kids (Inbetweeners? was that the name?) the OnDemand versions often had less editing than the aired version, but there was still a good deal of editing done. I don’t know if anything was removed outright, but lots of swears being edited out and stuff. Just less than on the actual broadcast. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/308 "2011-05-14T21:06:00Z")
Wow, awesome episode. This had to be the best Doctor Who I’ve seen in a long time. Won’t spoil it. This is how it should be every week. Article on this weeks guest writer. Neil Gaiman is very gifted. [http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/reviews/863306-doctor-who-met-the-tardis-in-an-episode-set-to-be-an-instant-classic](http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/reviews/863306-doctor-who-met-the-tardis-in-an-episode-set-to-be-an-instant-classic) ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/309 "2011-05-14T21:13:12Z")
Wow! Somehow Neil Gaiman managed to drain all the awesome out of last week’s episode and absorb it into this one. Obviously Neil Gaiman is a Time Lord. Or possibly a TARDIS. There’s only one word to describe this episode: Sexy ---
**Author:** ![Winnipeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ec9cab/32.png) [@Winnipeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winnipeg)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/310 "2011-05-14T23:15:11Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > 2008, according to [this news article](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23884566/). Though admittedly, that says that it should still be done in cases of near-drowning. But still, the Doctor should be able to do better! > > In reality, CPR isn’t even treatment for anything; it’s just a way of prolonging life until medical personell arrive. But _every_ show gets that wrong. Actually, I wonder how many people have dies because someone had the wrong idea about CPR from watching TV? You _ **DO NOT** _ stop giving CPR just because someone doesn’t recover. (Again, that’s not the point!) In fact, when I was trained in CPR, they told us that if you start CPR and then stop before paramedics arrive, you can be charged with criminal negligence. I imagine that would be a hard case to make stick, and Good Samaritan laws generally protect against such things if you act in good faith to help someone, but the point is, you _never_ use CPR like Amy (and every other character on television to use CPR ever) did. First you make sure medical help is coming, then you _keep doing CPR until they get there._ When I did my First Aid Course it was explained to us that our legal position had now changed, as we had now been educated in First Aid if we screwed up we could be sued for negligence and were no longer protected by Good Samaritan laws. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/311 "2011-05-14T23:43:59Z")
Hee hee! New signature! Maybe I’ll even use this one. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/312 "2011-05-14T23:58:30Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > Wow! Somehow Neil Gaiman managed to drain all the awesome out of last week’s episode and absorb it into this one. You’re not wrong. That was amazing on every level. The Fourth Dimension text for this episode has a hidden video clip but it’s not terribly enlightening. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/313 "2011-05-15T00:38:36Z")
Neil Gaiman- I love you. Just…awesome. Creepy, creepy corridor. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/314 "2011-05-15T00:41:23Z")
“Where’s my thief?” What?.. _whoa!_ That means she’s… she’s… SHE’S THE TARDIS! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/315 "2011-05-15T00:46:29Z")
I note that the TARDIS energy - when she’s first dropped into the body, and when she activates the cobbled-together console - is the same as regeneration energy… Such as when the little girl apparently regenerates. Which gives us yet another potential theory about her. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/316 "2011-05-15T01:02:41Z")
Great episode! On the evils of spoilers - that little interchange between House and the Doctor could really have been so much cooler if somebody hadn’t gone “Oh, that’s so cool, let’s put it in the season trailer.” So we all watched the trailer, and saw it, and said “Oh, those lines are so cool, I wonder what they mean.” And in this episode, when House started to say his line, it was like, “Oh, yeah. This is where the cool bit happens.” 😉 Fear me. I’ve killed hundreds of Time Lords. Fear me! I’ve killed them all. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/317 "2011-05-15T02:29:33Z")
OK, that was a very good episode that edged on greatness. I loved it. [spoiler] The actress that played the Tardis was so very good. I was hoping that the older control room would be a more classic one. It would have been fun to see an old old one. [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/318 "2011-05-15T02:38:06Z")
And, once again, Oh my God! They killed Rory! You bastards! And I loved loved LOVED that they made the Tardis a character and gave her a voice. What a cool concept - all this time the Doctor thought he stole her, and it turns out they stole each other. Also loved seeing Nine’s/Ten’s control room again. Please tell me Neil Gaiman is up for writing more episodes? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/319 "2011-05-15T02:40:07Z")
Neil Gaiman is very gifted and a genius at science fiction. I am bothered a bit at [spoiler]seeing impotent and powerless Timelords & Tardis so easily defeated by the creature House. This thing had created a Tardis graveyard. The great and powerful Timelords were literally turned into body parts. A Brilliant story. But does this diminish Doctor Who? There’s something unsettling that such a race of exalted beings have feet of clay. [/spoiler] Loved seeing the 1970’s corridors again. Brought back a lot of great memories. I hope they keep those sets. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/320 "2011-05-15T04:04:29Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I am bothered a bit at [spoiler]seeing impotent and powerless Timelords & Tardis so easily defeated by the creature House. This thing had created a Tardis graveyard. The great and powerful Timelords were literally turned into body parts. > > A Brilliant story. But does this diminish Doctor Who? There’s something unsettling that such a race of exalted beings have feet of clay. [/spoiler] They’ve always had feet of clay. Big ones. Like the old gods, they’re humans writ large, smarter and more experienced because of their life spans, and with access to one hell of a technology, but their feet (and probably right up to their hips) were clay. Gracious, what an episode. I hope they can have Neil back at some point! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=17)