# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/361 "2011-05-15T22:19:16Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I’m wondering - how are you so sure? Because the TARDIS sure looks an awful lot like a construct, doesn’t it? Because Tennant specifically told Rose and clone-Tennant on the beach at Bad Wolf Bay that TARDISes were grown, and that they could grow their own. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/362 "2011-05-15T22:19:51Z")
lol the TARDIS thinks Rory’s the good looking one ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/363 "2011-05-15T22:20:19Z")
> [@TPWombat](#): > > **“Pull to Open”** > > Brilliant. I never noticed. > > Never ever, all these years. > > And it’s so damn obvious - you’d never build a box that size with the door opening _inward_. > > Anyone else gobsmacked? Actually, the “Pull to Open” refers to the little door that houses the phone. Which you do pull. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/364 "2011-05-15T22:35:12Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > Actually, the “Pull to Open” refers to the little door that houses the phone. Which you do pull. Either way, though, you’d never make something the size of a phone booth/police box with inward-opening doors. No room. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/365 "2011-05-15T22:36:41Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > Because Tennant specifically told Rose and clone-Tennant on the beach at Bad Wolf Bay that TARDISes were grown, and that they could grow their own. Really? I don’t remember that. You may be right. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/366 "2011-05-15T22:42:55Z")
> [@vdgg81](#): > > That brings to mind another thing that bothers me: the Doctor nowadays is, by default, the most intelligent and knowledgeable guy around. Other versions of the character wouldn’t be scared by this kind of thing, because they accepted the universe was vast enough there needed to be smarter, weirder things than him out there. The Doctor should see the Silence as a challenge, not a personal threat. The reason he doesn’t is because he now sees himself as some sort of supreme authority. > > I miss a Doctor that is an explorer and who’s always learning, who wanders into trouble, instead of a superhero with all the answers who goes looking for trouble. The Doctor (to me) shouldn’t be an authority figure, he should strive to knock authority figures off their pedestals. Did you ever watch the Sylvester McCoy years? Besides the bad writing of the episodes I didn’t like that his version of the doctor was never really in any danger because he pretty much gave up all pretense of being anything other than brilliant and having all the answers. He had beaten all of his foes before, and he knew damn well he would beat them again. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/367 "2011-05-15T23:01:49Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Either way, though, you’d never make something the size of a phone booth/police box with inward-opening doors. No room. > > -Joe That’s right, and on a real Mackenzie Trench police box (which the Tardis is supposed to be imitating), only the right-hand side opened as a door anyway. But then the real ones were made of concrete, not wood, and the roof was different (and don’t even mention the windows) – and why is she a police box all the time anyway? I’m not sure Missy Tardis is in much of position to criticise other people on the “attention to detail” front. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/368 "2011-05-15T23:10:06Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > But then the real ones were made of concrete, not wood, and the roof was different (and don’t even mention the windows) – and why is she a police box all the time anyway? Actually, it’s because the TARDIS’s chameleon circuit is broken. The Master’s TARDIS tended to have a working one, making it harder for our hero to find it. But I’m not a nerd. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/369 "2011-05-15T23:25:16Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Really? I don’t remember that. You may be right. He even gave them a bit of TARDIS to grow. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/370 "2011-05-15T23:38:19Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Actually, it’s because the TARDIS’s chameleon circuit is broken. The Master’s TARDIS tended to have a working one, making it harder for our hero to find it. > > But I’m not a nerd. > > -Joe The Doctor’s always _assumed_ the chameleon circuit was broken, but he never seems to have been able to find the fault, and the one time he got it to do anything different, it just came up with two or three random and inappropriate shapes before reverting to a police box. Besides which, the Tardis quite clearly _has_ changed shape several times over the years — it’s just that each time it’s been into a _slightly different_ variation on a police box. It seems pretty clear to me that the Tardis looks like a police box because that’s the way she likes it. ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/371 "2011-05-15T23:39:56Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > lol the TARDIS thinks Rory’s the good looking one This made me happy. Poor Rory, Amy gets all the in-show love and cool bits. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/372 "2011-05-15T23:56:25Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > He even gave them a bit of TARDIS to grow. I _really_ don’t remember that, and I just re-watched “Journey’s End” this week. It was in that episode, right? Either that or the cold medicine has really been making me loopy. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/373 "2011-05-16T00:04:49Z")
> [@WotNot](#): > > The Doctor’s always _assumed_ the chameleon circuit was broken, but he never seems to have been able to find the fault, and the one time he got it to do anything different, it just came up with two or three random and inappropriate shapes before reverting to a police box. Besides which, the Tardis quite clearly _has_ changed shape several times over the years — it’s just that each time it’s been into a _slightly different_ variation on a police box. > > It seems pretty clear to me that the Tardis looks like a police box because that’s the way she likes it. From a deleted scene, series 5 \* "Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location in the first nanosecond of landing it analyses its surroundings, calculates a 12 dimensional data map of everything within a 1,000 mile radius and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."\* Yep, “Sexy likes it that way” would explain it… ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/374 "2011-05-16T00:06:23Z")
I thought it was in a deleted scene. ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/375 "2011-05-16T00:13:32Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > He even gave them a bit of TARDIS to grow. Is that bit considered canon, though? I know the scene was filmed - it’s an extra on the DVD box set - but it was never actually aired, right? Switching gears - I didn’t get the impression that the Doctor was bragging when he said, “Fear me. I killed all of them.” He just looked so sad when he said it, and kind of resigned, like, “Bitch, please. I’ve destroyed whole worlds and come back from the end of the universe, and now there’s you, and you’re just not going to be happy until I kick your ass too, are you? Fine. Jerk.” ---
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/376 "2011-05-16T00:27:29Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > From a deleted scene, series 5 > \* > "Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location in the first nanosecond of landing it analyses its surroundings, calculates a 12 dimensional data map of everything within a 1,000 mile radius and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. > > And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."\* > > Yep, “Sexy likes it that way” would explain it… I like that better than Nine’s explanation that he landed in 1963 and the chameleon circuit broke and he just never bothered to fix it. ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/377 "2011-05-16T00:38:21Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > From a deleted scene, series 5 > \* > "Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location in the first nanosecond of landing it analyses its surroundings, calculates a 12 dimensional data map of everything within a 1,000 mile radius and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. > > And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."\* Would that possibly have been from one of Douglas Adams scripts? It’s a very close paraphrase of his descriptions of the Nutri-matic Drinks Dispenser. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/378 "2011-05-16T00:52:46Z")
> [@Marlitharn](#): > > Is that bit considered canon, though? I know the scene was filmed - it’s an extra on the DVD box set - but it was never actually aired, right? Well that’s odd. I’ve never seen the DVDs - just the original broadcasts. How could I know that if it hadn’t aired? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/379 "2011-05-16T01:03:26Z")
Er… same way some people without cable or other means to get BBC America nonetheless seem to know the content of the latest episodes within a day of them being aired? ---
**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/380 "2011-05-16T01:11:07Z")
For the record, I just checked my torrent file of Journey’s End, and watched the Bad Wolf Bay scene. There doesn’t seem to be any mention of growing a TARDIS. It seems to have been a Rip of the BBC Airing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=20)