# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Marlitharn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marlitharn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marlitharn)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/381 "2011-05-16T01:14:27Z")
[Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcqdojFsuNo) it is on youtube. And now I’m wistfully wishing there were some way for Eleven and Donna to get back together. That would be freaking hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![vdgg81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3d9bf3/32.png) [@vdgg81](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vdgg81)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/382 "2011-05-16T01:24:30Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Er… same way some people without cable or other means to get BBC America nonetheless seem to know the content of the latest episodes within a day of them being aired? Within a day? Please, I see it less than one hour after it airs in England! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/383 "2011-05-16T01:58:59Z")
Well, I guess some of us have a life that requires we wait until after dinnertime. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/384 "2011-05-16T03:51:11Z")
> [@TPWombat](#): > > **“Pull to Open”** > > Brilliant. I never noticed. > > Never ever, all these years. > > And it’s so damn obvious - you’d never build a box that size with the door opening _inward_. > > Anyone else gobsmacked? Yep. Me too. Neil, you brilliant bastard… Loved the episode, but I kept thinking _This should have been a David Tennant episode…_ Especially when the Doctor found the message boxes and realized what House had been doing. Smith is very good at portraying the Doctor’s chaotic energy, his intelligence, and his sense of humor - his is the _funniest_ of all the Doctors - but Tennant conveyed that and the Doctor’s sorrow, rage, and pain; as well as his moral sense. Tennant just seemed to have more range as an actor than does Smith - the scenes in _The Family of Blood_ between John Smith and the Matron, and the Doctor and the Matron are as moving as any I’ve ever seen on television. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/385 "2011-05-16T04:10:48Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Either way, though, you’d never make something the size of a phone booth/police box with inward-opening doors. No room. Except for phone booths, that is. Of course Police Box doors open inwards. And the sign is for the small Phone door, as has been mentioned previously. ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/386 "2011-05-16T10:20:39Z")
(Mr. Lissar Posting) The scenes that everyone’s wondering about, about growing a TARDIS and about the broken chameleon circuit, were scenes that never made it to the final cut. They’re on YouTube, but probably not on any DVDs at present. R.T.Davies introduces the scene on Bad Wolf Bay and explains that although he loved the scene, it would have been too confusing in a very busy episode and didn’t really further the plot. The Matt Smith quote about the chameleon circuit was supposed to be at the tail end of _the Eleventh Hour_, and while I enjoyed the extra content, it really would have slowed down the pace of the episode. There are a lot of these “extra” clips are available on YouTube, ranging from jokes cut to save episode length (from _the Satan Pit_, for instance) to emotional scenes with Donna and the Doctor that were good but didn’t quite pan with the episode. ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/387 "2011-05-16T11:33:43Z")
> [@Shakester](#): > > River and not Pond, was the implication for me. No theories about what it could actually mean, though. Something timey-wimey, I expect. When River’s body dies, in The Forest of the Dead episode, her soul is saved into the library computer. I’m guessing Eleven is going to rescue her somehow, there just seems to have been lots of hints pointing back to her first two episodes… (a little girl, a creepy spacesuit, riddles about River in the Forest, etc) ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/388 "2011-05-16T11:37:34Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Er… same way some people without cable or other means to get BBC America nonetheless seem to know the content of the latest episodes within a day of them being aired? I watch it on Saturday evenings on BBC1. I don’t know what other people in other countries do. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/389 "2011-05-16T12:20:27Z")
> [@hermette](#): > > When River’s body dies, in The Forest of the Dead episode, her soul is saved into the library computer. I’m guessing Eleven is going to rescue her somehow, there just seems to have been lots of hints pointing back to her first two episodes… (a little girl, a creepy spacesuit, riddles about River in the Forest, etc) That’s an interesting idea. Those were Moffat’s episodes, and he may have been setting this up entirely from the start. But then again, I have a suspicion that it’s just not heading in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/390 "2011-05-16T12:54:03Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > Things I was iffy about - > > 1. The “bubble” universe. Actually I liked the idea, but it does fly in the face of the very well established canon that traversing outside the universe is nigh on impossible. I thought House’s Universe was more like E-Space than a Parallel Universe. IIRC, The Doctor and Adric escaped E-Space by dumping rooms, including Romana’s bedroom. > [@](#): > > 1. The old console room. Again, liked the idea. But I never had that much love for the Ecclestone / Tenant console room. I’d have much preferred to see the classic white roundelled hexagon room, or even better the wood panelled room (that was the secondary console room in the original series.) It was a waste of a good opportunity. I’d also have liked to see what some of the other rooms of the TARDIS look like. I was hoping for the wood paneled control room, too. We did get a taste of it from the console that The Doctor and Sexy built. It even had the shaving mirror. ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/391 "2011-05-16T13:01:04Z")
> [@hermette](#): > > When River’s body dies, in The Forest of the Dead episode, her soul is saved into the library computer. Seeing you call the Doctor Eleven has me wondering if we’ve had another clue this episode: Crimson Eleven … what was the rest? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/392 "2011-05-16T13:20:48Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Seeing you call the Doctor Eleven has me wondering if we’ve had another clue this episode: > > Crimson Eleven … what was the rest? Crimson Eleven Delight [Petrichor](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrichor) ---
**Author:** ![Qwisp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qwisp/32/397_2.png) [@Qwisp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwisp)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/393 "2011-05-16T13:23:09Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > Seeing you call the Doctor Eleven has me wondering if we’ve had another clue this episode: > > Crimson Eleven … what was the rest? Delight and Petrichor ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/394 "2011-05-16T13:28:31Z")
Right! Thanks! And Amy translated “petrichor” as “the smell of dust after rain”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/395 "2011-05-16T13:42:04Z")
> [@vdgg81](#): > > I also very much disliked the Doctor bragging about his destruction of the Time Lords and his cheering the TARDIS on as she killed House. I’m with **Marlitharn** - I didn’t see the Doctor as bragging, just putting House’s threat in perspective. He looked rather sad as he said it. And as for cheering on the destruction of House - given that much of the episode is devoted to highlighting the strange love affair between the Doctor and the TARDIS, I’m not surprised that the Doctor is going to root for the TARDIS to win. The Doctor is used to bad people and things trying to kill him, and he can forgive that. But try to destroy the people he loves and he gets nasty. He’s done it for Earth numerous times and his feelings for the TARDIS were likely a lot stronger and less abstract at that particular moment. I’m also not surprised that House managed to kill so many Time Lords. Consider how the Doctor might have fared if he’d arrived without companions and if House had “eaten” (rather than stolen) the TARDIS and then stayed around (with his flunkies) to fight a TARDIS-less Doctor. The odds would have been pretty bad even for a Time Lord of his considerable experience and talent. ---
**Author:** ![Bakhesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@Bakhesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bakhesh)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/396 "2011-05-16T13:52:39Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > From a deleted scene, series 5 > \* > "Every time the TARDIS materializes in a new location in the first nanosecond of landing it analyses its surroundings, calculates a 12 dimensional data map of everything within a 1,000 mile radius and determines which outer shell would blend in best with the environment. > > And then it disguises itself as a police telephone box from 1963."\* > > Yep, “Sexy likes it that way” would explain it… I seem to remember a Colin Baker episode where he had a go at fixing the circuits. The tardis materialised in a junk yard in London, scanned the surroundings, then for some reason decided the most appropriate disguise was a pipe organ. This became a problem later on when they returned to the tardis, but couldn’t work out where the doors were. (dredging this up from my slightly wonky, silence-addled memory, so I might be wrong) ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/397 "2011-05-16T15:04:33Z")
> [@hermette](#): > > When River’s body dies, in The Forest of the Dead episode, her soul is saved into the library computer. I’m guessing Eleven is going to rescue her somehow, there just seems to have been lots of hints pointing back to her first two episodes… (a little girl, a creepy spacesuit, riddles about River in the Forest, etc) AND in “SITL” - the therapist who is trying to cure the little girl of her library “hallucinations” is named _Doctor Moon_, as in “Day of the …” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/398 "2011-05-16T15:11:31Z")
> [@Lissla\_Lissar](#): > > The scenes that everyone’s wondering about, about growing a TARDIS and about the broken chameleon circuit, were scenes that never made it to the final cut. They’re on YouTube, but probably not on any DVDs at present. The chameleon circuit scene is in the extras on the series five DVD set, that’s where I first saw it. Don’t know about the Bad Wolf Bay one, I’ve only ever seen that on YouTube. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/399 "2011-05-16T15:15:08Z")
> [@Trion](#): > > And Amy translated “petrichor” as “the smell of dust after rain”. Actually… it appears that “petrichor” _really is_ the technical English language term for the smell of dust after rain. Wow, learn something new every day. ---
**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/400 "2011-05-16T18:17:02Z")
> **[Live Q & A: Neil Gaiman](https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2011/may/16/neil-gaiman-doctor-who-doctors-wife)** > > The writer Neil Gaiman discusses his episode of Doctor Who, The Doctor's Wife, which was broadcast on Saturday [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=21)