# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/481 "2011-05-22T20:55:31Z")
That was neat. I don’t think Rory is paranoid- he’s died a whole bunch of times- the universe _is_ out to get him. Anyone else think there’s a duplicate Rory out there? He was calling duplicate Jennifer when he was off somewhere with Amy. His voice, anyway, and we don’t know they can copy voices. I doubt they would, since they seem to be pretty adamant about being real, specific people. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/482 "2011-05-22T21:13:01Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > The whole “schedules out of whack” thing could be avoided if, say, the BBC would allow people _all over the world_ the use of the UK iplayer thingy for a (reasonable) fee. Then we’d all get to watch the episodes on time, there would be fewer illicit downloads/pirating/etc, and they’d have a better notion of how many fans are actually out there. > > But hey, no one listens to me. Why the BBC in particular? No TV network does that. Yet. When do I get to see the Smallville finale? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/483 "2011-05-22T21:28:12Z")
Well, I’d be OK if every network did that, it’s just that right at the moment the BBC is the one with the shows I want to see that I can’t get. A lot of US shows I can get on Hulu for a limited time in a reasonable time around initial air date, but not the BBC. Although if an int’l iplayer is for ipads only it’s useless to me. Sure, I’d pay $10 for Dr. Who (somehow - even that little is a stretch for me) but no way in hell I can afford an ipad right now. I can’t even get my stupidphone fixed. God, I hate being poor. (I’d also happily pay for _Sherlock_, too, when it comes back.) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/484 "2011-05-22T22:21:31Z")
> [@Lissla\_Lissar](#): > > That was neat. I don’t think Rory is paranoid- he’s died a whole bunch of times- the universe _is_ out to get him. When Jennifer (who turns out to be Flesh-Jennifer) said she had thought she was going to die, Rory’s “Welcome to my world.” response is on theme. And off course if this is a quantum-Rory he is still Plastic-Rory (as well as recreated-Rory) that had all of Rory’s memories and emotions without actually being him, and very much understands what Flesh-Jennifer is struggling with. This is more than him wanting to protect a pretty and scared young lady. He can understand like no one else can. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/485 "2011-05-22T23:03:20Z")
> [@Lissla\_Lissar](#): > > That was neat. I don’t think Rory is paranoid- he’s died a whole bunch of times- the universe _is_ out to get him. > > Anyone else think there’s a duplicate Rory out there? He was calling duplicate Jennifer when he was off somewhere with Amy. His voice, anyway, and we don’t know they can copy voices. I doubt they would, since they seem to be pretty adamant about being real, specific people. Not sure why we are using spoilers to discuss the episode that aired last night. No, I think there is only one Rory & one Amy. The Doctor was the only one who touched the white gooey plastic stuff, which is how it was able to make a copy of him. And yeah, I liked how Rory felt a connection to duplicate-Jennifer, since he did live 2000 years as Plastic-Rory. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/486 "2011-05-22T23:18:36Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Although if an int’l iplayer is for ipads only it’s useless to me. Sure, I’d pay $10 for Dr. Who (somehow - even that little is a stretch for me) but no way in hell I can afford an ipad right now. I can’t even get my stupidphone fixed. God, I hate being poor. iPad is just going to be the pilot, getting an idea of potential demand, bandwidth issues, how well does the payment gateway work etc. Another huge issue is music rights. This weeks episode had a Dusty Springfield track and a Muse track. These may need to be paid for in different territories. The main UK broadcasters have an agreement that they pay a large amount of money every year and have free reign over what can be played, royalty-wise. These issues have obviously been dealt with by the US, Canadian and Australian broadcasters showing the current Who, but general access to an international iPlayer is a trickier proposition. They are working on it, though. As to this weeks episode: I’m reserving judgement, it’s only part one. A tentative thumbs up, with particular kudos to the issues of identity and some genuine scares and horror (And Rory! God, I love Rory). I’ll need to watch again, because there’s a lot going on under the hood here. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/487 "2011-05-23T00:50:07Z")
BTW, does anyone think that the sneezing one of those guys keeps doing will end up being significant? I’m guessing it will but I haven’t figured out how so yet. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/488 "2011-05-23T01:04:15Z")
Well, yeah, of course it will be important. Especially since the human version is the one sneezing and the ganger one isn’t. The Doctor losing his shoes and now wearing borrowed boots will also be important somehow or other, probably in telling Gallifreyan Doctor and ganger Doctor apart. ---
**Author:** ![mcott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@mcott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcott)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/489 "2011-05-23T01:07:41Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > BTW, does anyone think that the sneezing one of those guys keeps doing will end up being significant? I’m guessing it will but I haven’t figured out how so yet. Sneezing, yes. “Jennifer” pounding on her chest, yes. Ganger Doctor, hell yes - but not in any way that we suspect. As an aside, I can’t believe that they got away with the trench (acid pipe), sinking TARDIS, and “control room” at Cardiff Castle. Amazing building / site. The Beeb must have some amazing pull 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/490 "2011-05-23T02:36:36Z")
> [@mcott](#): > > Sneezing, yes. “Jennifer” pounding on her chest, yes. Ganger Doctor, hell yes - but not in any way that we suspect. And how will the Dusty Springfield song be significant to the final denouement? That’s what I can’t figure out. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/491 "2011-05-23T11:17:10Z")
It may or may not be important. Can anyone identify which one it is? ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/492 "2011-05-23T11:27:31Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > There’s a strange part of the story when the team first arrive, with this dialogue: > > My point is it seems that the Doctor knew where he was, and what was going on inside. Either he’d been there before, or there’s something timey-wimey going on at the heart of it, perhaps arc-related events. > > Later he seemed to know what the consequences of the organic doppelganger goop was going to become (perhaps from events that ensue in a timeline he has visited before). > > Just thought I’d throw that out there. > > - _The Almost People_ is the title of the next episode Yes, I’m thinking along these lines, too. There also was dialogue to the effect of ‘I can _still_ fix this’, and his initial reluctance to bring Amy and Rory along struck me as odd, too. There’s definitely some larger background we’ve not been shown yet. The TARDIS ride was also bumpier than usual… As for Dusty Springfield, I heard ‘You Don’t Have To Say I Love You’ at least once, but was it always the same one? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/493 "2011-05-23T12:23:51Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > BTW, does anyone think that the sneezing one of those guys keeps doing will end up being significant? I’m guessing it will but I haven’t figured out how so yet. Yes, though we don’t know how or why yet. I’m wondering if the fact that they’re pumping huge amounts of acid is significant, apart from adding in a reason for use of The Flesh - and, of course, random environmental hazards. And if they’re pumping all this acid…well, where’s it coming from? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/494 "2011-05-23T12:35:32Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > And if they’re pumping all this acid…well, where’s it coming from? I was wondering this, too. I was also wondering where it was being pumped to, what kind it was, and what it was being used for. I don’t remember the numbers mentioned, but I do remember thinking it was an awful lot of acid. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/495 "2011-05-23T12:45:48Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > I was wondering this, too. I was also wondering where it was being pumped to, what kind it was, and what it was being used for. I don’t remember the numbers mentioned, but I do remember thinking it was an awful lot of acid. Two hundred tons, I think. Or, since it’s a Limey show, two hundred tonnes. And that’s super-duper acid. Maybe they’re pumping it into the center of the Earth to take care of the dinosaur problem once and for all! -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/496 "2011-05-23T13:07:25Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Two hundred tons, I think. Or, since it’s a Limey show, two hundred tonnes. And that’s super-duper acid. > > Maybe they’re pumping it into the center of the Earth to take care of the dinosaur problem once and for all! > > -Joe Or the Silurians… ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/497 "2011-05-23T13:08:59Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Or the Silurians… They’re who I meant. I was being lazy and didn’t look it up. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Qwisp](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qwisp/32/397_2.png) [@Qwisp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qwisp)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/498 "2011-05-23T15:44:12Z")
It occurred to me as I was watching Silence in the Library last night Maybe the good man River killed was the Doctors doppelganger ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/499 "2011-05-23T15:51:12Z")
> [@Qwisp](#): > > It occurred to me as I was watching Silence in the Library last night > > Maybe the good man River killed was the Doctors doppelganger I’m sure it’s been covered, but what are the odds that it’s River in the space suit? And for really wacky stuff, what are the odds that it’s 900-Doctor in the suit killing of 1100-Doctor for…some reason? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/500 "2011-05-23T18:25:07Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > And for really wacky stuff, what are the odds that it’s 900-Doctor in the suit killing of 1100-Doctor for…some reason? That’s the theory at my house. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=26)