# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/601 "2011-05-30T14:34:10Z")
> [@Banquet\_Bear](#): > > But I’ve personally loved the last other episodes this season, but that might be more because I’m getting a very clear idea of where Moffatt is going with the series, and each surprise reveal (like Pond in this episode) haven’t come out of nowhere, fits in with the clues that have been left in the series, and nothing feels like a cheat. The thing is, I get that. I really do. Just that for the most part that is supplemental to what is actually happening in the episode. Most of the toing and froing of the past two episodes could have been replaced by just about anything. The episodes themselves were poor but the reveal at the end was cool. Basically, good idea for a running storyline but failure on getting decent episodic stories. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/602 "2011-05-30T15:04:13Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Okay, I might have to re-watch the previous one. When they grew the ganger didn’t it end up with clothes that were essentially part of it? Or am I mixing this up with some other discussion about shape-shifters (like the one saying Odo was essentially naked all the time). But if their clothes are part of them then how could the Doctors > > switch shoes? IIRC, the Doctor stuck his hand into the goo when he still had his regular shoes on. It was only later that he walked through acid and had to replace his shoes - but the Doctorganger grew the pair of shoes he’d been wearing when he was initially scanned. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/603 "2011-05-30T15:43:22Z")
My biggest beef with this series so far is just that it’s been so damned DARK. I could really use an injection of light, silly humor right about now. This show has always mixed its elements very effectively, but this series has been all doom and gloom from start to finish. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/604 "2011-05-30T15:45:33Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > My biggest beef with this series so far is just that it’s been so damned DARK. I could really use an injection of light, silly humor right about now. This show has always mixed its elements very effectively, but this series has been all doom and gloom from start to finish. I have to agree with this. I mean, basically the whole season (or maybe even before), Amy has been trapped by monsters, forcibly impregnated, and made to control a doppelganger version of herself unbeknownst to her husband. Yikes? I am ready for some wacky, silly Doctor Who for a while, please. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/605 "2011-05-30T16:05:42Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > My biggest beef with this series so far is just that it’s been so damned DARK. I could really use an injection of light, silly humor right about now. This show has always mixed its elements very effectively, but this series has been all doom and gloom from start to finish. You didn’t find"Might as well just call me **Smith**!" funny? I did. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/606 "2011-05-30T16:09:46Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Do tell, **irishgirl** > > It isn’t Melody, is it? Well, someone blurted out some possible spoilers on the comments section in one of the youtube videos of the trailer. According to this person, the babies’ name is… River Song. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/607 "2011-05-30T16:30:05Z")
The finale should be really good. I don’t expect the Doctor to get too violent. He doesn’t have an Armory with plasma rifles & cannon in the Tardis. Even the 10th Doctor wanted to wimp out in Stolen Earth/Journeys End. He planned to let Davros and all those Daleks live. Eventually they would have conquered everything and exterminated entire species. It took the Doctor clone to set things right and kill the Daleks. I agree that it’s time to lighten up. I’m getting frustrated with the dark episodes too. If things don’t change next season, then I’ll probably stop watching. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/608 "2011-05-30T19:32:33Z")
I wasn’t going to post this, but some of you seem interested in spoilers. So if you want a spoiler, here’s an interesting one: [http://doctorwhospoilers.com/2011/spoilers/4137](http://doctorwhospoilers.com/2011/spoilers/4137) ---
**Author:** ![BunnyTVS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BunnyTVS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BunnyTVS)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/609 "2011-05-30T21:43:10Z")
Just idle speculation here, with no real connection to the story… Could the flesh technology be what Cassandra, the last human, used? ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/610 "2011-05-30T21:58:09Z")
> [@BunnyTVS](#): > > Just idle speculation here, with no real connection to the story… > > Could the flesh technology be what Cassandra, the last human, used? Well she was, what, five billion years in the future? That would be like us using caveman tools. ETA: I don’t think they ever said specifically when this story took place, but I assumed it was in the relatively near future. Like 22nd, 23rd century. ---
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/611 "2011-05-30T22:09:15Z")
Obviously, to paraphrase William Goldman, it was after artificial life but before CD players. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/612 "2011-05-30T22:33:20Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > ETA: I don’t think they ever said specifically when this story took place, but I assumed it was in the relatively near future. Like 22nd, 23rd century. In last week’s Confidential they said it was 22nd Century. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/613 "2011-05-30T23:21:20Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > Well, someone blurted out some possible spoilers on the comments section in one of the youtube videos of the trailer. According to this person, the babies’ name is… > > River Song. Not sure I see that. Unless something MADE her do it…what possible reason is there for Amy to name it that? > [@GuanoLad](#): > > In last week’s Confidential they said it was 22nd Century. Yeah, 22nd century was flat out stated in the regular show as well. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/614 "2011-05-31T08:43:28Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > Okay, I might have to re-watch the previous one. When they grew the ganger didn’t it end up with clothes that were essentially part of it? Or am I mixing this up with some other discussion about shape-shifters (like the one saying Odo was essentially naked all the time). But if their clothes are part of them then how could the Doctors > > switch shoes? Yes, that question’s been on my mind, too. If they switched shoes – which I’m not convinced they did – that’d mean the ‘real’ Doctor is still wearing a part of the flesh Doctor. Molecular memory, huh? Also, there definitely were more than one sonic around. Has it been established the Doctor’s got a couple spares? I always thought it was just the one… ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/615 "2011-05-31T11:56:47Z")
> [@Candyman74](#): > > Not particularly, nope? > > Wow, you’re really seeing something I’m not if you had to check who the actress was to determine she isn’t the same person! 😃 FWIW I thought EyePatch lady looked really like River too - not quite enough to check (the addition of the eye patch was enough of a giveaway) but enough to be mistaken in the quick glances we’re getting of her! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/616 "2011-05-31T12:11:02Z")
> [@hermette](#): > > FWIW I thought EyePatch lady looked really like River too - not quite enough to check (the addition of the eye patch was enough of a giveaway) but enough to be mistaken in the quick glances we’re getting of her! I don’t think that The Flesh copying clothes is a big deal. If it was, you could just grab a piece of their clothing and if it turns to goo they’re not ‘real’. Once its created, it’s a real thing. The shoes are no longer Flesh fake shoes, they’re leather and rubber. Now, what will happen if The Doctor uses his sonic on his shoes…well…who the hell knows? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/617 "2011-05-31T12:49:21Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > Also, there definitely were more than one sonic around. Has it been established the Doctor’s got a couple spares? I always thought it was just the one… I thought the Tardis makes a new one when he loses it. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/618 "2011-05-31T14:03:41Z")
In the original run of the show the fifth Doctor got his sonic screwdriver destroyed and he, the sixth, and the seventh Doctors never had a new one. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/619 "2011-05-31T16:42:24Z")
> [@Nobody](#): > > In the original run of the show the fifth Doctor got his sonic screwdriver destroyed and he, the sixth, and the seventh Doctors never had a new one. Yeah, but the tenth and eleventh doctors have both had screwdrivers destroyed multiple times. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/620 "2011-05-31T17:01:47Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Yeah, 22nd century was flat out stated in the regular show as well. > > -Joe Alright, guess I missed that. Also, Moffat made a post on Twitter saying something will NOT be featured this season, that I think may please some people: The Daleks [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=30) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=32)