# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/681 "2011-06-06T09:35:30Z")
I missed this thread until now. [This site](http://tv.uk.msn.com/columns/jack-on-the-box/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=158045791) gives a great review of the series so far and says it better than I could. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/682 "2011-06-06T12:45:42Z")
> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#): > > I missed this thread until now. > > [This site](http://tv.uk.msn.com/columns/jack-on-the-box/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=158045791) gives a great review of the series so far and says it better than I could. Not sure I can take it seriously when they almost immediately call him “Rory Pond”… -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Angua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@Angua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angua)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/683 "2011-06-06T12:51:17Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Not sure I can take it seriously when they almost immediately call him “Rory Pond”… > > -Joe Hasn’t that been a running gag in the show? I seem to recall the Doctor calling him “Rory Pond” on occasion. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/684 "2011-06-06T13:23:30Z")
> [@Angua](#): > > Hasn’t that been a running gag in the show? I seem to recall the Doctor calling him “Rory Pond” on occasion. Maaaaybe. But The Doctor says it to needle him. The reviewer’s point was that they need to stop being mean (ie. killing) him. I’m going to assume that the reviewer wasn’t being double-secret ironic and just screwed up. Other than that, though, the reviewer was kinder than I was expecting. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/685 "2011-06-06T13:25:51Z")
Yes, it has been a running gag in the show, that Amy is the dominant one in the relationship, and the Doctor calls them both “Pond”. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/686 "2011-06-06T13:52:22Z")
> [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](#): > > I missed this thread until now. > > [This site](http://tv.uk.msn.com/columns/jack-on-the-box/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=158045791) gives a great review of the series so far and says it better than I could. I have a couple of thoughts on that: \*\*Killing Rory \*\*- I believe that’s because Rory is fated to die, and is the good man who River will kill. For some reason, he should be dead now, and the uiverse is trying to put that right. **Making the Doctor a figure of notoriety** - that, absolutely, 100% is what this year is about. They’ve been reiterating the “everyone is so scared of you, they band together to take you down” and really emphasizing the theory that he’s almost the bad guy now, that his own hubris is the biggest danger the universe faces. This series is Moffat’s way of ending all that and taking it back to a strange guy who puts things right. I wouldn’t be shocked to see that also tie in with his choice to be shot on that beach. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/687 "2011-06-06T14:32:45Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Yes, it has been a running gag in the show, that Amy is the dominant one in the relationship, and the Doctor calls them both “Pond”. Me, I only think of him as ‘the pretty one’ now. ---
**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/688 "2011-06-06T14:51:27Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > OK, on rewatching, he says the bit about the Cybermats after the credits, but it seems like a continuation of the earlier scene. Also it sounds like he might be quizzing the new Doctor. He says “Cybermats” then the new one asks, “Do we have time for this?” The first one says, “I need more proof that you’re me.” You can’t tell it’s the new Doctor who then explains what Cybermats are, but presumably he’s answering the first Doctor’s query, which is understood as “[Tell me about] Cybermats [so I can see what you know].” > > Also, according to the Doctor Who Wiki, it was Tom Baker’s voice asking if he wanted a jelly baby; he recorded it recently for the BBC while he was working on a Doctor Who audio adventure. It also says that “Hello, I’m the Doctor” was in Ten’s voice, though honestly, I can’t tell. > > The other phrase he says, “One day we will get back…yes, one day,” is apparently a line from the First Doctor in the very first episode. Never understood why the Flesh Doctor just used the early Doctors voices and not do some morphing - after all it was programable flesh that took the appearance of the person - in the Doctors case 11 of them. Pity that ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/689 "2011-06-06T15:05:51Z")
I think the Doctorganger was trying to get his Flesh to settle down - I would think continual morphing would be distracting at best, quite disconcerting, and would make dealing with humans extremely difficult between all the expressions of squick and the screaming and running away and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/690 "2011-06-06T15:44:55Z")
> [@Hogfather65](#): > > Never understood why the Flesh Doctor just used the early Doctors voices and not do some morphing - after all it was programable flesh that took the appearance of the person - in the Doctors case 11 of them. Pity that I imagine that’s simply a budget thing. ---
**Author:** ![Hogfather65](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@Hogfather65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hogfather65)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/691 "2011-06-07T09:08:01Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Yes, it has been a running gag in the show, that Amy is the dominant one in the relationship, and the Doctor calls them both “Pond”. I think they had to keep it going because if they started calling Amy - Amy Williams then River Song would have been Williams Song ---
**Author:** ![Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/46a35a/32.png) [@Walker\_in\_Eternity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walker_in_Eternity)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/692 "2011-06-07T12:20:44Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I think the Doctorganger was trying to get his Flesh to settle down - I would think continual morphing would be distracting at best, quite disconcerting, and would make dealing with humans extremely difficult between all the expressions of squick and the screaming and running away and stuff. He’ll be back, just in time to get killed by the girl in the spacesuit (River?) instead of the Doctor This series has been a bit patchy so far, some high points such as the first two episodes and the Doctor’s Wife episode, but the rest have fallen a bit flat for me so far. It’s not he actors, I think Matt Smith makes a great Doctor and Rory and Amy are good companions, it is the writing in general that seems a bit off. I find myself looking back for some RTD melodrama with a sense of nostalgia. Speaking of which, this latest series reminds me a little of the Sylvester McCoy era, a good Doctor saddled with poor scripts and an overcomplicated attempt to make him mysterious and dangerous again. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/693 "2011-06-07T16:30:59Z")
One thing I’m starting to wonder, will The Doctor be getting a new companion next season? I’m assuming that they’ll rescue Melody by the end of this season (if not the last episode), and the TARDIS is no place to raise a kid. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/694 "2011-06-07T16:38:48Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > One thing I’m starting to wonder, will The Doctor be getting a new companion next season? I’m assuming that they’ll rescue Melody by the end of this season (if not the last episode), and the TARDIS is no place to raise a kid. Assuming Melody is the girl we saw regenerate, it seems pretty likely that she doesn’t have her parents as of age six or so. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/695 "2011-06-07T22:29:21Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Assuming Melody is the girl we saw regenerate, it seems pretty likely that she doesn’t have her parents as of age six or so. > > -Joe Six years old is still pretty young to be flying around space and time. Coincidentally, today they announced one person who will be around next season: [http://io9.com/5809542/yes-matt-smith-is-officially-back-for-another-season-of-doctor-who](http://io9.com/5809542/yes-matt-smith-is-officially-back-for-another-season-of-doctor-who) ---
**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/696 "2011-06-08T17:19:41Z")
So, is River faking it when they’re talking about the girl in the spacesuit, or does she really not remember?I’d think that orphanage would be memorable, even with the Silents around. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/697 "2011-06-08T17:34:07Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Six years old is still pretty young to be flying around space and time.[/spoiler] We don’t know that’s what she’s been doing. All we know is she’s six years old and running loose in 1969. So, up until at least that age she likely doesn’t have parents around. At least not Amy and Rory. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/698 "2011-06-08T19:15:21Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > We don’t know that’s what she’s been doing. All we know is she’s six years old and running loose in 1969. So, up until at least that age she likely doesn’t have parents around. At least not Amy and Rory. > > -Joe No, I’m saying she’ll likely be rescued at the end of this season, when she’s six years old (don’t forget about time travel), and they don’t want to raise her on the TARDIS. ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/699 "2011-06-08T21:44:04Z")
I was re-watching the last season of Doctor Who and in [The Pandorica opens](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pandorica_Opens) the Romans are discovered as duplicates when River goes to Amy’s room and discovers the history book about Romans in England. She finds a picture of Rory, dressed as a Roman soldier, between the pages of the book and is surprised to see “that centurion” as she called him. Wouldn’t she have been alarmed earlier when she saw her father as a Roman in 2nd century England? ---
**Author:** ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/700 "2011-06-08T22:15:17Z")
Nevermind. Forgot the whole Rory erased from history bit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347.md?page=36)