# {New Dr Who Season, UK pace} \[edited title\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347 "2011-04-22T12:42:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/81 "2011-04-26T06:42:57Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> The Tenth Doctor was David Tennant, who never met Amy Pond. Matt Smith is the Eleventh Doctor.

My mistake, I meant 11.

Still, what happened when the Doctor went through the crack in Amelia Pond’s bedroom? The Doctor left the Universe Amy was in, and her remembering the Doctor brought him back into being.

How did that happen? At the very least, there are now two 11s, one who went through the crack and the one who was[called into being at Amy’s wedding](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02BxPxLTR3M).

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/82 "2011-04-26T06:45:35Z")

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My wife told me there was a one day gap. Shows what she knows. 😉

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/83 "2011-04-26T06:53:25Z")

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My favorite exchange from this episode (paraphrased):

The Doctor: “You have that look again.”  
River: “What look?”  
D: “That look that I’m hot when I’m being clever.”  
R: “This is my normal look.”  
D: (smiling) “Yes, it is.”

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/84 "2011-04-26T06:57:21Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> BBC-America will air the second episode this Saturday night, April 30, at 9pm.

_checks BBCA’s schedule again_ Oooh, I see where I went wrong…I only saw the 11PM/12AM airings.

Well, I did say ‘seems to be’.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/85 "2011-04-26T08:05:30Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> My wife told me there was a one day gap. Shows what she knows. 😉

That was heavily rumoured up until when the schedule was officially confirmed.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/86 "2011-04-26T10:40:34Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> My mistake, I meant 11.
> 
> Still, what happened when the Doctor went through the crack in Amelia Pond’s bedroom? The Doctor left the Universe Amy was in, and her remembering the Doctor brought him back into being.
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> How did that happen? At the very least, there are now two 11s, one who went through the crack and the one who was[called into being at Amy’s wedding](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02BxPxLTR3M).

It’s at least as possible that he was called back from another universe… it seems a bit more plausible that Amy’s memories are capable of restoring what’s been lost to the cracks, than that they’re capable of bringing copies of things into being.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/87 "2011-04-26T12:30:13Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …suggesting that we make this the official UK Pace thread for this season: anyone object?

Cool with me. I guess spoilers are okay for the current episode? That would mean if you’re in the US this thread would contain spoilers as of Saturday afternoon.

> [@JohnT](#):
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> UK _and_ US, since the two countries are now only 1 day apart. Agree?

\<nitpick\>Eight hours east coast, eleven hours west coast.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/88 "2011-04-26T13:56:52Z")

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I did have one small problem with Saturday’s episode. The Doctor, et al, go to the intersection of Jefferson, Adams, and Hamilton at Cape Kennedy, Florida. River and Rory then explore the basement of the building.

This would be impossible. When my parents were living in Merritt Island, Florida, in 1969, they had to mow the lawn twice a week, because the water table was only eighteen inches down. You can’t have basements in coastal Florida, unless you really like them flooded.

Come to think about it: I have no problem with a big blue box that’s bigger on the inside, and can travel through time. I have no problem with aliens that you forget as soon as you don’t see them. I have a problem with the water table in florida.

Maybe the problem isn’t with the show, but my brane.

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**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/89 "2011-04-26T14:16:27Z")

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> [@typoink](#):
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> River seemed odd. Her lack of reaction to The Doctor’s apparent death seemed hard to buy to me. It’s possible she was trying to be stoic, but I read it more as either her not really caring about The Doctor (but that doesn’t add up) or knowing The Doctor wasn’t really dead but (for whatever reason) trying not to let Amy in on that fact. I’ll admit I have a hard time with River in general – ever since her original appearance, I’ve had a hard time placing her. She’s can’t be purely a “bad guy” or her relationship with The Doctor just doesn’t add up. But obviously she’s hiding a dark secret. I really hope Moffatt’s got something up his sleeve interesting enough to justify all the attention the character gets.

> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I was thinking it was River, as a little girl. Except the spacesuit person seemed to be using the same weapon as the Silent. How do we know they’re the Silent, btw? They aren’t. Silent, that is. They can talk and make rattly noises. 😕

Yeah, I’m thinking it might be River too. The doctor asking her “What great hero did you kill to get put in jail?” His reaction to the space suit–something along the lines of “Oh it’s you.”

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/90 "2011-04-26T14:42:28Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> I just noticed the number on the bus Amy and Rory were on.

51?

You know what? I was going to ask what that meant, but just as I was typing this, I got it.

Was it me, or did Matt Smith manage to look old in some of his scenes?

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/91 "2011-04-26T14:49:32Z")

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> [@Banquet\_Bear](#):
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> …suggesting that we make this the official UK Pace thread for this season: anyone object?

Joint UK/US/Canada thread sounds good. Unless there’s a US holiday weekend that might throw the pace off by a week? I seem to remember a missed week last year.

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**Author:** ![Silent\_Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Silent\_Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silent_Kal)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/92 "2011-04-26T15:16:38Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> Was it me, or did Matt Smith manage to look old in some of his scenes?

He’s always been quite believable at portraying a 900+ year old alien (despite being so young himself), but he did imbue the picnic scene with an extra degree of weariness. He definitely appears much older than he does in the diner.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/93 "2011-04-26T15:54:48Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> 51?
> 
> You know what? I was going to ask what that meant, but just as I was typing this, I got it.

Wha…?

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/94 "2011-04-26T16:09:47Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> Wha…?

I second this wha…?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/95 "2011-04-26T16:23:16Z")

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If the 51 is not a Doctor specific in joke, maybe it’s a reference to Area 51?

\<shrug\>

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/96 "2011-04-26T16:25:00Z")

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> [@Baron\_Greenback](#):
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> I second this wha…?

The bus number Amy and Rory were on - 51. Since they went to the American west looking for aliens an alien…

-Joe

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/97 "2011-04-26T16:44:26Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> The bus number Amy and Rory were on - 51. Since they went to the American west looking for aliens an alien…
> 
> -Joe

:smack: I am so slow sometimes.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/98 "2011-04-26T17:10:31Z")

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> [@Paintcharge](#):
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> Yeah, I’m thinking it might be River too. The doctor asking her “What great hero did you kill to get put in jail?” His reaction to the space suit–something along the lines of “Oh it’s you.”

I thought he said, “I know it’s you.” Only after he said that did the visor get raised.

I, too, think it’s River.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/99 "2011-04-26T17:12:31Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> I did have one small problem with Saturday’s episode. The Doctor, et al, go to the intersection of Jefferson, Adams, and Hamilton at Cape Kennedy, Florida. River and Rory then explore the basement of the building.
> 
> This would be impossible. When my parents were living in Merritt Island, Florida, in 1969, they had to mow the lawn twice a week, because the water table was only eighteen inches down. You can’t have basements in coastal Florida, unless you really like them flooded.
> 
> Come to think about it: I have no problem with a big blue box that’s bigger on the inside, and can travel through time. I have no problem with aliens that you forget as soon as you don’t see them. I have a problem with the water table in florida.
> 
> Maybe the problem isn’t with the show, but my brane.

Well, the tunnels, which go ALL over the place, must have been made by the aliens. Presumably they have a way to keep the water out as well.

-Joe

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-dr-who-season-uk-pace-edited-title/579347/100 "2011-04-26T17:14:32Z")

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> [@Trion](#):
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> Was it me, or did Matt Smith manage to look old in some of his scenes?

Nope, it was him. Smith often stands with a bit of an “old man stoop”, there’s something about the slightly bow-legged walk and the way he holds his elbows that says “old”. In other words, he’s using the body language of an old man quite effectively, particularly if you can’t really see his face.

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