# New England Dopers Will Soon Get Historic Blizzard

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 26, 2015, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911 "2015-01-26T07:53:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/181 "2015-02-19T02:27:50Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> Just in time to have ANOTHER MOTHERFUCKING SNOW DAY ON MONDAY, amirite?
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> I love my child but if I have to spend one more day stuck in the house…

You aren’t alone. My friends report the same thing.  
Oh god, not more snow. There was another flurry tonight and I thought, I just can’t even…no more!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/182 "2015-02-19T04:55:48Z")

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> [@GrumpyBunny](#):
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> Oh god, not more snow. There was another flurry tonight and I thought, I just can’t even…no more!

Aww, who’s a grumpy bunny? Who’s a grumpy bunny?

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**Author:** ![Arabella\_Flynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8491ac/32.png) [@Arabella\_Flynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arabella_Flynn)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/183 "2015-02-19T06:25:16Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> I moved from Santa Barbara (high of 85) to near Sacramento (high of 70) to go to school in Boston (high of fuck you).

I’ve been telling people who ask that it’s “profanity degrees” outside right now. It’s perfectly accurate. They immediately hit up the weather service to see what I mean, and the first thing they do is swear.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/184 "2015-02-19T07:01:01Z")

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I remember up in places like Idaho where they get heavy snows, 2 story homes would be built with a second story entry door for when the snow covers the house. Have you all ever seen this?

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/185 "2015-02-19T13:33:05Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Even if the one season lasts for seven months?

Right?! On the other hand, don’t put in a pool.

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**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/186 "2015-02-19T17:24:43Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I remember up in places like Idaho where they get heavy snows, 2 story homes would be built with a second story entry door for when the snow covers the house. Have you all ever seen this?

Do they at least TRY to justify it as a balcony or deck? Or is just… door to nowhere!

Pictures please!

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/187 "2015-02-19T17:40:53Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I remember up in places like Idaho where they get heavy snows, 2 story homes would be built with a second story entry door for when the snow covers the house. Have you all ever seen this?

No, we don’t usually get that much snow around here. Remember that this is an historic amount of snow in a very short period of time. It’s officially the second–snowiest winter on record.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/188 "2015-02-19T17:42:07Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Aww, who’s a grumpy bunny? Who’s a grumpy bunny?

😃

I’m a wicked grumpy bunny!

And it’s snowing again. :smack:

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**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/189 "2015-02-20T02:15:44Z")

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I wish you could tell where you all are from…

Meanwhile, here in Portland Maine, I cleaned my car off today 4 times. ☹

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/190 "2015-02-20T02:52:33Z")

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> [@tapu](#):
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> I wish you could tell where you all are from…

Medford.

Anybody up for a dopefest once we can all venture out into the world again?

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**Author:** ![Arabella\_Flynn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8491ac/32.png) [@Arabella\_Flynn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arabella_Flynn)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/191 "2015-02-20T08:09:37Z")

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> [@tapu](#):
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> I wish you could tell where you all are from…
> 
> Meanwhile, here in Portland Maine, I cleaned my car off today 4 times. ☹

Somerville, MA. Every time they plow the bus route clear of snow, they temporarily plow us _in_. I’ve been getting into and out of town via Sullivan Square. It’s a longer walk, but the businesses along the way mean that the sidewalk gets shoveled consistently.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/192 "2015-02-20T13:58:04Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Medford.
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> Anybody up for a dopefest once we can all venture out into the world again?

Somerville, MA. And yes, count F. Pu and I in for a dopefest once things clear up a bit. We’ve been meaning to meet the Greater Boston gang since we moved here late last year.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/193 "2015-02-20T16:02:48Z")

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I’m near Buffalo and was giggling up my sleeve at you guys until I talked to a friend who moved to Framingham (sp?) who said it’s out of control.

Upthread you were talking about dumping in the bay. Same problem  
here about dumping in lake Erie. Road crew budgets are getting creamed with overtime for plowing and hauling truckloads out of congested areas.

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**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/194 "2015-02-20T17:39:39Z")

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> [@Mr.Goob](#):
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> I’m near Buffalo and was giggling up my sleeve at you guys until I talked to a friend who moved to Framingham (sp?) who said it’s out of control.
> 
> Upthread you were talking about dumping in the bay. Same problem  
> here about dumping in lake Erie. Road crew budgets are getting creamed with overtime for plowing and hauling truckloads out of congested areas.

Here in Kansas City we’ve had maybe 2 days where road crews worked and that really sucks for the people who have part time businesses plowing parking lots and such.

The white means green and gold for many people.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/195 "2015-02-20T19:05:07Z")

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> [@Winston\_Smith](#):
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> We got another 14-16 inches of snow Saturday night and Sunday morning. ☹
> 
> I have ice dams on my roof, and now water is leaking into my dining room. I’ve got a growing water stain on the ceiling and the window is leaking off and on. On the bright side, my snow blower is running strong, and this winter can’t last forever.
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> Or can it?

What are ice dams on a roof. I can imagine it on a river but on a roof? Why wouldn’t the ice pack evenly so it doesn’t dam up any water? 😕

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/196 "2015-02-20T19:22:50Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> What are ice dams on a roof. I can imagine it on a river but on a roof? Why wouldn’t the ice pack evenly so it doesn’t dam up any water? 😕

Kind of what it sounds like. Look at how the shingles are laid down on the roof. They overlap and that overlap protects the roof because water generally flows downhill, but not up. When you get a lot of snow and cold weather, ice builds up in the gutters and on the edges of the roof. Then, when snow further up the roof melts, the water has no place to go and can back up under the roof shingles and into the house. This leads to water damage and really irritating drip-drip-drip scenarios.

Generally roof shingles are laid down with an underlayment to help prevent this kind of leakage in climates where it can occur, but often the only solution is to go up on the roof and remove the offending ice and snow.  
Note: The melting is often caused by heat from inside the house – the eaves usually extend out, so remain colder. That’s why the dam forms lower down the roof.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/197 "2015-02-20T19:55:48Z")

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My father has been raking the garage roof and porch roofs but last night I mentioned roof collapses to him and this set him off an a fret about how the house roof is too high to rake and he didn’t know how to take care of it besides hiring someone, etc. And this weekend it will rain and the load will get heavier – ack! I guess for now there is no plan to do anything about it, just hope for the best.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/198 "2015-02-21T05:17:34Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Kind of what it sounds like. Look at how the shingles are laid down on the roof. They overlap and that overlap protects the roof because water generally flows downhill, but not up. When you get a lot of snow and cold weather, ice builds up in the gutters and on the edges of the roof. Then, when snow further up the roof melts, the water has no place to go and can back up under the roof shingles and into the house. This leads to water damage and really irritating drip-drip-drip scenarios.
> 
> Generally roof shingles are laid down with an underlayment to help prevent this kind of leakage in climates where it can occur, but often the only solution is to go up on the roof and remove the offending ice and snow.  
> Note: The melting is often caused by heat from inside the house – the eaves usually extend out, so remain colder. That’s why the dam forms lower down the roof.

We got a metal roof two years ago - no gutter for anything to build up in, though. And we still have god damn ice dams.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/199 "2015-02-22T16:28:08Z")

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We have used One Weird Trick for ice dams that is effective if they’re not too thick. Cut the legs off tights, fill with rock salt, tie them, throw on roof hanging off a bit. (Looks super classy!) They’ll melt a groove into the ice dam and allow a path for runoff.

We have this in about 4 or 5 places on our roof.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-england-dopers-will-soon-get-historic-blizzard/710911/200 "2015-02-22T17:35:48Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> We have used One Weird Trick for ice dams that is effective if they’re not too thick. Cut the legs off tights, fill with rock salt, tie them, throw on roof hanging off a bit. (Looks super classy!) They’ll melt a groove into the ice dam and allow a path for runoff.
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> We have this in about 4 or 5 places on our roof.

Not everyone has a pair of tights lying around that we can use for this. Fortunately, the roof is not my responsibility.

Not a bad plan, though. You might want to locate the salt-filled tights so they’re not over your prize flower bed.

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