# New Era for our Solar System on 2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 1, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302 "2005-10-01T03:57:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saletlx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@saletlx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saletlx)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/1 "2005-10-01T03:57:23Z")
Dear Friends, does anyone knows the truth about the new phase that our solar system will supposedly enter at the end of 2012 matching the end of the Mayan Calendar? People say we will enter an era of light after thousands of years in dark universe. Kind Regards, ---
**Author:** ![robardin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/43a26b/32.png) [@robardin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robardin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/2 "2005-10-01T04:04:13Z")
> [@saletlx](#): > > Dear Friends, does anyone knows the truth about the new phase that our solar system will supposedly enter at the end of 2012 matching the end of the Mayan Calendar? > > People say we will enter an era of light after thousands of years in dark universe. > > Kind Regards, Wow, this news just blew me away, and I just had to find out more about what’s coming. I tried consulting a Ouija board, but all it will say on the subject is GO CUBS, which is patently absurd. I’m returning it to Toys R Us tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/3 "2005-10-01T04:11:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/4 "2005-10-01T04:16:42Z")
And just in case anyone’s actually interested in this crap: [The Photon Belt and the New Era of Light](http://www.librarising.com/photon.html): > [@](#): > > Every 10,700 years, Our solar system passes through a 2100 year-wide belt of highly charged ion particles known as the photon belt. This belt is the “Holy Spirit” or God force of the universe stepped down from the Center of Creation. > > Sol’s passage through this belt happens twice during an approximate 26,000 year cycle -the time it takes to go around its greater sun(presumably Alcyon in the Pleaides). This huge vertical and doughnut-shaped belt presently appears(from Earth) to slice through the astrological ages of Leo and Aquarius. Since we are moving into the Age of Aquarius, we are also moving into the photon belt. The prediction is that we will officially and fully be inside the belt by 2012AD. When this happens(and it’s already happening), the new energy will transform the planet and all life on/in it into higher dimensions or vibratory states. Those who cannot adapt to this higher, purer state, will die or be removed to another solar system. Uh huh. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/5 "2005-10-01T04:20:04Z")
> [@saletlx](#): > > Dear Friends, does anyone knows the truth about the new phase that our solar system will supposedly enter at the end of 2012 matching the end of the Mayan Calendar? > > People say we will enter an era of light after thousands of years in dark universe. Is this “new era of light” supposed to be a good thing? It seems to me like the Universe is plenty light enough to be getting on with just as it is now. If it got much lighter, we’d all be fried to a frazzle. ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/6 "2005-10-01T04:24:11Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Is this “new era of light” supposed to be a good thing? It seems to me like the Universe is plenty light enough to be getting on with just as it is now. If it got much lighter, we’d all be fried to a frazzle. Of course it would! Hence the need to rise to a new vibrational plane! Sheesh, you just can’t tell some folks. Tris ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/7 "2005-10-01T04:42:50Z")
> [@Triskadecamus](#): > > Of course it would! Hence the need to rise to a new vibrational plane! Sheesh, you just can’t tell some folks. > > Tris Man, this is bad news. I have trouble enough vibrating as it is. I’m going to have to stock up on espresso. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/8 "2005-10-01T04:43:23Z")
A new vibrational plane, eh? Will this alter my results from the FT-IR? ---
**Author:** ![saletlx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@saletlx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saletlx)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/9 "2005-10-01T05:21:19Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > A new vibrational plane, eh? Will this alter my results from the FT-IR? ‘Under this invisible but powerful light, bodies and minds will be purified, and aging, sickness, and death will be no more. Neither will we need technologies of any kind; our full status as light beings will be reactivated, and powers such as telepathy and teleportation will be the norm.’ ---
**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/10 "2005-10-01T05:47:08Z")
Well, why bother with retirement savings? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/11 "2005-10-01T05:57:13Z")
Y’know, we used to try to answer the question before we broke out in gales of laughter and began rolling around on the floor holding our sides. This question used to come up a lot more frequently, but it seems to have been a few years since its last appearance in [Stupid Mayans and the end of the world](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=121082) and even further since its initial appearance (following the move from AOL) in [Aztec Sun Calendar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=21596) (on this thread you need to wade through a lot of acrimony to the bottom to get to the Straight Dope®). ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/12 "2005-10-01T06:52:39Z")
> [@saletlx](#): > > ‘Under this invisible but powerful light, bodies and minds will be purified, and aging, sickness, and death will be no more. Neither will we need technologies of any kind; our full status as light beings will be reactivated, and powers such as telepathy and teleportation will be the norm.’ So, you’re saying we’re going to be light beings. At what wavelengths are we going to be radiating? If I put a molecule in a strong magnetic field and then radiate my new light-being body at it, will I get spin flips? ---
**Author:** ![jsmith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@jsmith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsmith)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/13 "2005-10-01T07:08:42Z")
I know a little that I was able to learn from a Mayan friend in Cozumel. It is called the “Golden Age”. It does mark the end of the calendar but it also marks the start of a new calendar. My friend doesn’t think it is a very big deal, no end of the world or dire predictions. His opinion is that others misundertand the meaning. The end of the calendar meant rebirth, or starting new. Much like new years for us. They Mayans believed that they would be entering a new age of understanding and elightenment in 2012. Perhaps, there are some great inventions that will be discovered in 7 years. Cycles in the Mayan calendar are common. One of the most interesting is a 52 year cycle were he says Mayans burn all their possessions and start over. Or, at least they did in the old days. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/14 "2005-10-01T07:33:02Z")
> [@jsmith](#): > > One of the most interesting is a 52 year cycle were he says Mayans burn all their possessions and start over. Or, at least they did in the old days. I’m sorry to waste an otherwise entertaining thread with a GQ, but did they actually burn their possession? Are there evidences of it? ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/15 "2005-10-01T09:34:50Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > And just in case anyone’s actually interested in this crap: [The Photon Belt and the New Era of Light](http://www.librarising.com/photon.html): > > > [@](#): > > > > Sol’s passage through this belt happens twice during an approximate 26,000 year cycle -the time it takes to go around its greater sun(presumably Alcyon in the Pleaides). This huge vertical and doughnut-shaped belt presently appears(from Earth) to slice through the astrological ages of Leo and Aquarius. Since we are moving into the Age of Aquarius, we are also moving into the photon belt. The prediction is that we will officially and fully be inside the belt by 2012AD. When this happens(and it’s already happening), the new energy will transform the planet and all life on/in it into higher dimensions or vibratory states. Those who cannot adapt to this higher, purer state, will die or be removed to another solar system. > > Uh huh. The [Plieades](http://schmidling.netfirms.com/m45.htm) are at least 400 light years away. If 400 years is the radius of a circular orbit, then the circumference is 2513.27 light years. If we travel around Alcyon in a 26,000 year orbit, then our average orbital speed is nearly 10% the speed of light. IMO, there would be a hell of a lot more blue and redshifting going on in our stellar neighborhood at this speed…but I don’t see it. I second **Q.E.D.**'s “Uh huh.” ---
**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/16 "2005-10-01T09:40:58Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > And just in case anyone’s actually interested in this crap: [The Photon Belt and the New Era of Light](http://www.librarising.com/photon.html): > > Uh huh. No worries, **Q.E.D.** , but you gotta agree, it’d be fucken funny if he were _right_. Maybe it’s just me, but whether it’s Korean evangelical types holed up in a rented room above the lawnmower repair store waiting for the rapture, or nutcases barricaded in a ranch surrounded by ATF officers… I dunno, but there’s a part of me that always hopes they’re right for once, and they can thumb their noses at us. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/17 "2005-10-01T13:29:23Z")
Besides, everyone knows the Apocalypse will be in the year 2030. ---
**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/18 "2005-10-01T13:53:12Z")
:smack: Sheesh! It never ends! Ever feel like 3% of the population has always been responsible for dragging the other 97% out of the cave by their bearskins and amulets? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/19 "2005-10-01T14:06:37Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Y’know, we used to try to answer the question before we broke out in gales of laughter and began rolling around on the floor holding our sides. That was before we were transformed into a higher dimension or vibratory state. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302/20 "2005-10-01T14:31:20Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > At what wavelengths are we going to be radiating? 420 - 440 nm, [Indigo](http://www.greatdreams.com/indigo.htm), [dude!](http://skepdic.com/indigo.html). You’ll need a [Magnetar](http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap980527.html) to constrain the spin states. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-era-for-our-solar-system-on-2012/324302.md?page=2)