# New Face Discovered on Shroud of Turin

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 16, 2004, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279 "2004-04-16T01:12:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279/21 "2004-04-16T15:32:07Z")

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> [@Mausmagill](#):
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> And don’t get me started on how 36 hours = 3 days.

Whyever not? After all, [24 hours = 4 days.](http://www.timecube.com/)

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**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279/22 "2004-04-16T16:12:47Z")

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One thing that always seemed like a really bright red flag to me (aside form the other stuff, like it suddenly popping up in the 14th century), is that the image on it looks exactly like the typical Euro-Jesus that was popular in [contemporary paintings](http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/jesus/photo/zoom2.html) and not the [very ethnic looking Jew](http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20030414/jesus.html) he almost certainly was.

Also interesting that Pope Clement VII was sufficiently less than impressed enough to call it a fake - in 1389.

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**Author:** ![Phedre\_no\_Delaunay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/839c29/32.png) [@Phedre\_no\_Delaunay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phedre_no_Delaunay)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279/23 "2004-04-16T17:50:38Z")

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> [@Star Was](#):
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> There was a PBS special about the Shroud on the night before Easter of which I only saw a few minutes. They were talking about another cloth that is keep in Spain that is hundreds of years older than the carbon dating showed the Shroud to be. There is blood on this cloth and it was stated that this has been proven to be the same blood that is on the Shroud. Does anyone know anything about this other cloth and the claims made about it? Is there blood on the Shroud?

Here is a link about that other cloth, called [The Sudarium of Oviedo](http://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm) . It is claimed to be the cloth from the bible that **Mangetout** mentioned earlier. “Simon Peter, following him, also came up, went into the tomb, saw the linen cloth lying on the ground, and also the cloth that had been over his head”

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279/24 "2004-04-16T22:00:59Z")

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> [@ralph124c](#):
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> I have read quite a bit about the shroud, and I believe that it is a fake. However, nobody seems to be abletoexplain why the shroud image is a negative…it would have been almost impossible for a medieval artist to have painted a negaitive image on pupose.

Not necessarily. I’ve seen a documentary on the shroud in which an artist was able to duplicate the image seen on the shroud quite easily. He took a small swatch of cloth, placed it on a bias relief image of a face, and then began to daub it with a bundle of herds (the _same_ kind of herbs that the body was supposedly annoited with) wrapped in cloth and soaked in water. A negative image soon formed on the cloth which had been draped over the bias relief. He claimed that this was a fairly common practice short after the period of time in which the shroud first appears.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279/25 "2004-04-16T22:48:40Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> If it is real, I have to say that Jesus looks an awful lot like Duane Allman. Guess you need to listen to _At Fillmore East_ more often if you wanna get to heaven, huh?

_Sometimes I feel,  
Sometimes I feel,  
Like I been nailed to the crucifix,  
Nailed to the crucifix,  
Nailed to the crucifix,  
Good Lord, I feel like I’m dyin’ (temporarily)_

Yep, I’m going to hell…

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [April 16, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-face-discovered-on-shroud-of-turin/240279/26 "2004-04-16T23:36:08Z")

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I hate the Shroud. It’s another opportunity for knuckleheads to argue dumb things and make others think that Christianity rests on whether this is legit or not.

NOTE TO WORLD:

Christianity does not necessarily endorse

1. TV preachers

2. Christian market musicians

3. Holy relics

4. Your brilliant white light in your coma

5. You

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