# New Fall Network TV shows **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 11, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221 "2014-09-11T19:22:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/1 "2014-09-11T19:22:19Z")
I watched all Big Three networks fall Previews, and here is what I liked: _Forever_. (The did this before in _New Amsterdam_, let’s hope this one lasts.) **Houdini** - watched and was great! _NCIS- NO._ Maybes: _Constantine._ _Gotham_ _Gracepoint._ Looks stupid: _How to get Away with Murder._ (Law students can do almost nothing IRL) _Intruders_ (watched epi1, and was confused and bored) _Marry Me_ ( the female lead was so fucking annoying in the preview it was amazing) _The Mc Cartheys._ _State of Affairs._ (no way Katherine Heigl can carry this off.) ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/2 "2014-09-11T20:58:09Z")
I had no interest in seeing Kate Walsh’s _Bad Judge_ until I saw her in the _Fargo_ TV series. If her character is at all like Gina Hess, it could actually be good. Two sad commentaries on US TV: 1. There are way too many shows that are _Homeland/Scandal/House of Cards_ ripoffs. I’m reminded of the scene in _Network_ where Conchata Ferrell is pitching shows to Faye Dunaway and they are all basically the same (and similar to the latest hit shows of the era). That was 1976. 2. The dearth of interesting new network sitcoms. When was the last time an non-formulaic (_Community_ or _Louie_) sitcom of any value debuted? ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/3 "2014-09-11T22:25:39Z")
Selfie - I’ll be honest, I’ll only watch to see Karen Gillan Gotham - will definitely give a shot. Television Critics Association voted it “most promising” [http://tvcritics.org/foxs-gotham-named-the-most-promising-new-fall-series-by-the-television-critics-association/](http://tvcritics.org/foxs-gotham-named-the-most-promising-new-fall-series-by-the-television-critics-association/) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/4 "2014-09-11T22:56:15Z")
Being a fan of _Happy Endings_ (and as someone who feels it was canceled way too soon), I’m actually going to give _Marry Me_ a shot. It’s by the same creator, I believe, and an early review of the pilot basically called it “The Year of Penny 2.” ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/5 "2014-09-11T23:01:14Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Being a fan of _Happy Endings_ (and as someone who feels it was canceled way too soon), I’m actually going to give _Marry Me_ a shot. It’s by the same creator, I believe, and an early review of the pilot basically called it “The Year of Penny 2.” Same and for the same reason. Others: Gotham The Flash Possibly Scorpion That’s about it. I find I watch less and less TV every Season. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/6 "2014-09-11T23:09:24Z")
Saw a 30 minute preview thingy on _Gotham_ the other night. Looks like it has tons of potential. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/7 "2014-09-11T23:10:45Z")
Most def. Gotham. Cannot wait. Black-ish looks racist as hell. (How _dare_ the mixed race wife have opinions on living black?) Red Band Society might be interesting. The very concept of Jane the Virgin is ludicrous. I hope they address the unethical lapses by the doctor who is responsible for the very idea of implanting an embryo into a woman who has never had sex. Gracepoint. Of _course_ Gracepoint. The McCarthys sounds offensive. The gay stereotyping is repugnant. I’ll try Constantine, but I have doubts. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2014, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/8 "2014-09-11T23:36:31Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > _State of Affairs._ (no way Katherine Heigl can carry this off.) I’d try an episode if they called it _No Way Katherine Heigl Can Carry This Off_. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/9 "2014-09-12T00:04:53Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > When was the last time an non-formulaic (Community or Louie) sitcom of any value debuted? Last year with _Go On_? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/10 "2014-09-12T16:53:32Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > 1. The dearth of interesting new network sitcoms. When was the last time an non-formulaic (_Community_ or _Louie_) sitcom of any value debuted? \*The Crazy Ones. \* ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/11 "2014-09-12T17:07:22Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > \*The Crazy Ones. \* You misspelled _Brooklyn 99_. _Red Band Society_ looks like the glurgiest pile of shit since grandma’s last Christmas newsletter. Hulu has the pilots for _Selfie_ and _A to Z_ streaming. _Selfie_ isn’t terrible, but I honestly can’t see it being appointment TV. I’d watch it if there was nothing else on. _A to Z_ is laughably bad. If it lasts more than a few episodes, I’ll be shocked (then again, the execrable _Dads_ made it a whole season, so what do I know?). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/12 "2014-09-24T20:50:26Z")
Gotham was good, but I remain cautious. Forever, epi 2 was still great, but will it catch on? Anyone else? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/13 "2014-09-24T21:42:55Z")
_Mysteries Of Laura_-Mysteries of who let this shit on the air. Two children finding amusement in pissing on each other in public is not what I want to see on a detective show. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/14 "2014-09-24T21:46:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > _Mysteries Of Laura_-Mysteries of who let this shit on the air. Two children finding amusement in pissing on each other in public is not what I want to see on a detective show. Yeah, I passed on that myself. I like Debra Messing but this is not a role for her. Hell, it’s not a role for anyone. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/15 "2014-09-24T23:19:59Z")
Scorpion was so bad I was cringing. It doesn’t help that I have passing familiarity with what they were attempting to do, but I think anyone could recognize the stupidity. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2014, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/16 "2014-09-24T23:39:48Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Scorpion was so bad I was cringing. It doesn’t help that I have passing familiarity with what they were attempting to do, but I think anyone could recognize the stupidity. Watched it last night. Will watch again because it totally can’t get any worse. Right? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/17 "2014-09-25T12:22:37Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > _Red Band Society_ looks like the glurgiest pile of shit since grandma’s last Christmas newsletter. Well said. You’ve captured my feeling on that show perfectly. As big a fan of tv as I am, I don’t see anything new on the networks that I’m interested in. I’ll give any sitcoms a chance if it’s sandwiched between other sitcoms I already watch, but I don’t expect that to last more than a couple episodes before I start cutting them out of my DVR scheduling. Marry Me is the only one I’ll make a point to sample. I liked the movie Constantine quite a bit, so I’ll give the show a try, but my impression is that it will be a big steaming turd. None of the other new shows appeal to me at all. I think I’m still traumatized by Extant to the extent that it’s hard to shake the feeling that “network” automatically equals “bad.” ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/18 "2014-09-25T12:53:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I watched all Big Three networks fall Previews, and here is what I liked: > _Forever_. (The did this before in _New Amsterdam_, let’s hope this one lasts.) The parallels between this and New Amsterdam made me think both had the same creator and he somehow wangled another shot at the idea. Both feature an immortal who died for inarguably noble reasons and was resurrected but doesn’t know how or why, living in NY with a retirement-age sidekick they raised from childhood. NA wasn’t given a chance to find it’s footing, but I’m hoping _Forever_ gets a shot. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/19 "2014-09-25T19:29:45Z")
> [@LibrarySpy](#): > > Last year with _Go On_? That was two years ago. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221/20 "2014-09-26T16:40:22Z")
I saw NCIS New Orleans last nite. Great cast, but you never start off with “and _this_ time, it’s personal”. Nearly always cheesy, and a cheap-cop out, bad way to start a series. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-fall-network-tv-shows/698221.md?page=2)