# New Florida Senate bill would eliminate state Democratic Party **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 28, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512 "2023-02-28T22:34:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/1 "2023-02-28T22:34:02Z")
> **[New bill would eliminate Florida Democratic Party](https://www.wesh.com/article/ultimate-cancel-act-florida-democratic-party/43125234)** > > The Florida Democratic party would not exist if a new Senate bill is passed and signed into law. A newly filed bill would eliminate any Florida political party that has previously platformed in favor of slavery or indentured servitude, so… Yeah. It’s actually been named the Ultimate Cancel Act. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/2 "2023-02-28T22:38:47Z")
From article: > [@](#): > > If Floridians are not alarmed by what is coming out of Republican leadership in Tallahassee then they are not paying enough attention." A good segment (do I need to say who?) aren’t, dont plan to, and actually wouldn’t bat too much of an eye (other than rejoicing) if this UCA silliness somehow got enacted. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/3 "2023-02-28T22:41:34Z")
> “For years now, leftist activists have been trying to “cancel” people and companies for things they have said or done in the past. This includes the removal of statues and memorials, and the renaming of buildings. Using this standard, it would be hypocritical not to cancel the Democrat Party itself for the same reason,” explained Sen. Ingoglia. If anyone wants to see what a temper tantrum looks like when thrown by a grown man, this is it. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/4 "2023-02-28T22:46:43Z")
Are they going to make it impossible to form new political parties too? Maybe they’ll require a bunch of signatures to get on the ballot the next time, but that shouldn’t be an issue unless they also change the laws to basically outlaw new political parties. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/5 "2023-02-28T22:59:29Z")
Who cares? This sort of thing is purely performative and I don’t see how it could have any real effects. Which makes it essentially the same as the whole “Democrat Party” thing. Which is to say, juvenile, pointless and intended to rile up morons. Any consumers of this sort of idiocy is already voting for Republicans, and anyone else shouldn’t care except to sigh and think, “Ah, thanks - yet another reason not to vote for these fools.” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/6 "2023-02-28T23:18:54Z")
Golly… so many words come to mind. Unconstitutional? Open Rebellion? New “White Sands” testing grounds? Impoundment w/o due process of any/all Traitor State assets? Imprisonment and permanent loss of citizenship for all elected GOP Florida officials? A Presidentially Appointed governor, Congressperson ( one ), and Senator ( one ) for 20+ years? Expulsion from Congress of all Traitor politicians under the 14th Amendment, Section 3? ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/7 "2023-02-28T23:27:26Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Unconstitutional? Under this court? I’m not taking that bet. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/8 "2023-02-28T23:37:27Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > any Florida political party that has previously platformed in favor of slavery or indentured servitude One would have to guess that they simply missed this, _Thirteenth Amendment, Section 1: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction._ Unless they are not in fact supporters of the Constitution? ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/9 "2023-02-28T23:42:31Z")
> [@Llama\_Llogophile](#): > > Who cares? I care. Sure, this may be too crazy but the “what is crazy” envelope has been pushed further than I ever thought possible over the past ~30+ years. We have already seen the road the Supreme Court is willing to go down with the crazy in decisions like Citizens United (and more). Conservatives keep throwing shit at the wall and seeing what will stick. A strategy of SUPER crazy so you (general “you”) think the merely crazy is ok seems to be working. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/10 "2023-02-28T23:55:33Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > One would have to guess that they simply missed this Before the 13th Amendment, the Republican Party of the mid-19th century harbored the abolitionists and the Democrats were their opposition. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/11 "2023-03-01T00:06:03Z")
Of course, you can find instances of Republicans advocating for slavery much more recent than that. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/12 "2023-03-01T00:13:53Z")
Yes, plenty of time to amend the Amendment of the involuntary servitude language they, now, seem to care so much about. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/13 "2023-03-01T00:21:48Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > A newly filed bill would eliminate any Florida political party that has previously platformed in favor of slavery or indentured servitude, so… Yeah. Since Republicans are so fixated on race and whiteness, maybe we could go the extra yard and ban from politics anyone of a race that ever was in favor of slavery. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/14 "2023-03-01T00:23:28Z")
I think the point is, with this qualifier: > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, … **everyone** who’s ever said they “support the Constitution” has “advocated for slavery or indentured servitude” under at least some conditions. So it really is the Ultimate Cancel Act. You’ll just have to reboot your entire society, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/15 "2023-03-01T00:34:12Z")
Hi kiddies, can you say Ex Post Facto? Performative stunt bills are being introduced by the thousands every year. They’re cause for concern but seldom make it into law. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/16 "2023-03-01T00:38:06Z")
The “who the fuck cares what Florida does” idea doesn’t wash with me, when the governor of Florida is a front-runner for the Republican nomination to the presidential election, and there is a possibility that he’ll be the next POTUS. If Ron DeSantis is nodding along, saying, “Good idea fellas.” Imagine what kind of shit he might try to pull in the White House. Now, if this is just one nutjob in the Florida Senate, proposing some stupid unsupported shit like Marjorie Taylor Greene in the big House proposing that the US ban chocolate ice cream for being racist or whatever her antisemitic paranoid lima bean of a mind comes up with next, then okay, point and laugh. But if this is at all given support by the likes of Ronnie the Immigrant Dumper, then yeah, I have concerns. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/17 "2023-03-01T00:41:22Z")
> [@](#): > > “For years now, leftist activists have been trying to “cancel” people and companies for things they have said or done in the past. This includes the removal of statues and memorials, and the renaming of buildings.” I guess it escaped their notice that the people honored by those statues and buildings were mostly Democrats. The same morons believe the modern Republican Party is still the party of Lincoln. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/18 "2023-03-01T00:54:20Z")
So, keep throwing shit at the wall and some will stick. Over time that adds up. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/19 "2023-03-01T00:55:09Z")
The wall is getting hard to clean. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2023, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512/20 "2023-03-01T01:37:21Z")
Hey, do you have any idea of how hard it is to out-crazy your fellow wingnuts these days? You need to work on your insanity eight days a week and endure a hard day’s night. Sisyphus didn’t have it so hard. Getting so crazy that it makes the Dope is like an amateur sending in jokes to a late-night show. Only one in a million get through. Our hats should go off to Blaise Ingoglia aka [@GovGoneWild](https://twitter.com/GovGoneWild?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor). If it weren’t for people like him, we might somehow forget what the Republican Party has turned into and just ignore next year’s election entirely. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-florida-senate-bill-would-eliminate-state-democratic-party/980512.md?page=2)