# New Forum Suggest (or at least a sticky) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 9, 2010, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080 "2010-11-09T20:11:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/41 "2010-11-12T15:36:11Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > But if you mean “wacky” like unhinged, deranged and irrational, yeah. And there’s nothing “wacky” about punitive, mean-spirited, and stingy. This “English only” crap and local enforcement of immigration law is particularly obnoxious in a Texas that is and always has been largely Hispanic. Total bullshit. We, as a state, are going to have to defend the border because there’s a fucking war going on down there and the U. S. Government sits in Washington with one thumb up its collective ass and the other in its mouth and thinks it’s doing a great job when it decides to switch them. There is absolutely nothing “punitive, mean-spirited, and stingy” about our decision to do so. As far as English-only: voted much recently? Especially in Houston, where the ballots have to be provided in forty-lebben different languages, all at increased cost to the taxpayers? Again, this is a Federal problem where the USG has fallen on its ass and the states have to do their job for them. English is the primary language of this country; always has been, always will be. It is only reasonable to expect people who live and work in this country to learn the language of this country. Except, of course, to those who have a vested interest in keeping those people at a level of second-class citizenry. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/42 "2010-11-12T15:37:17Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > Thanks. I am so far behind enemy lines here, I fear I will never get out. There are pockets of resistance though. Door’s right over there. Don’t let it hit you in the ass on your way out. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/43 "2010-11-12T15:56:16Z")
I did not let it hit me on my ass on my way out. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/44 "2010-11-12T16:10:59Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > …As far as English-only: voted much recently? Especially in Houston, where the ballots have to be provided in forty-lebben different languages, all at increased cost to the taxpayers?.. Every damn time. Have never not voted. And this “increased cost to the taxpayers”? Is this some dreadful, onerous burden? Every minority language group in America has at least one member who will volunteer to translate a ballot for their fellow citizens. How is that some monstrous burden on the taxpayer? Here in the People’s Republic of Lake Wobegon, public documents are printed in a variety of languages, including Spanish, Hmong, Somali, and various others upon request. So far as I know, no crushing burdens have been placed. I admire these people, for all the placid dullness that is their characteristic, they have an inherent decency others would do well to emulate. You, for instance. > [@](#): > > …English is the primary language of this country; always has been, always will be… Shirley you cannot possibly be this ignorant? > [@](#): > > …Except, of course, to those who have a vested interest in keeping those people at a level of second-class citizenry. You offer an utterly repulsive innuendo which you most likely haven’t the nerve to support, certainly you cannot support it with facts. Would you mind terribly keeping your knuckle-walking troglodyte slander to yourself? There’s a good fellow. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/45 "2010-11-12T17:14:15Z")
> [@Ionizer](#): > > Oklahoma is _the_ worst in everything, imho. Having just read about [this](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/11/oklahoma-death-penalty-animal-euthanasia-drug_n_782435.html) further strengthens my vitriol towards OK. Executing inmates with an animal anesthetic?! Instead of waiting about two months for the approved-for-human-use and more effective drug? Beat that for scummy State actions! :eek: Of all the stupid things that we do in Oklahoma, this doesn’t even make the top 10. We’ve sent Jim Inhofe to the US Senate for 4 times ferchrissakes. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/46 "2010-11-12T17:15:15Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > defend the border because there’s a fucking war going on down there and the U. S. Government sits in Washington with one thumb up its collective ass and the other in its mouth and thinks it’s doing a great job when it decides to switch them. You ain’t kiddin’. People that don’t either live there or work in immigration/customs don’t realize how much of a war is happening in places like Juarez. And then they want to get on your case when you dare to suggest that law enforcement actually enforce the law. Fuck 'em. ETA: Just last weekend, gangs killed 20 people. 20! That’s more of a massacre than Columbine. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/47 "2010-11-12T17:21:35Z")
A true story: I and a former friend who lives in South Texas broke off relations post-9/11, because I laughed at his dead-serious assertions that al-Qaeda operatives could and probably already had snuck into Texas by mingling with the illegal farm workers, pretending to be one of them. He was unable to see my point that such operatives would probably be very noticeable to the Mexican illegals, who would no doubt want nothing to do with them and even turn them in. Assuming any operatives would actually be that stupid, which I doubt. This man used to be very sensible; I guess it’s true what they say about friends going off in separate directions. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/48 "2010-11-12T18:35:07Z")
Texas, the state where critical thinking goes to die. Am I right or Amarillo? ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/49 "2010-11-12T19:01:47Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > As far as English-only: voted much recently? Yes > [@](#): > > Especially in Houston, where the ballots have to be provided in forty-lebben different languages, all at increased cost to the taxpayers? Most voting is done electronically, and people volunteer for the translation. it doesn’t cost much of anything > [@](#): > > Again, this is a Federal problem where the USG has fallen on its ass and the states have to do their job for them. No, they haven’t. It isn’t actually a problem. > [@](#): > > English is the primary language of this country; always has been, always will be. I doubt it. Spanish will probably the predominant language in texas soon. I hope so anyway. Maybe we can finally get that jackass Perry out of office. > [@](#): > > It is only reasonable to expect people who live and work in this country to learn the language of this country. Except, of course, to those who have a vested interest in keeping those people at a level of second-class citizenry. Tsalagi hewoni? I doubt you speak Cherokee. Damn Euros should go back to Euroland until they can learn the language. We are a multi language society here. There is nothing wrong with that. We have always been a multi language society. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/50 "2010-11-12T19:12:52Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > Most voting is done electronically, and people volunteer for the translation. it doesn’t cost much of anything Volunteer? They help other people, for free? What sort of socialist utopia are you guys running down there? ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/51 "2010-11-12T19:42:02Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Volunteer? > > They help other people, for free? > > What sort of socialist utopia are you guys running down there? Just like Moscow…only with more people yelling yeehaw. ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/52 "2010-11-12T19:50:50Z")
More [swimmin’ and swingin’](http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch:1&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&gs_rfai=&q=utopia,%20texas) than running really. ---
**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/53 "2010-11-12T20:35:31Z")
Can we bash some of the ignorant Tennesseans in this new forum too? I love Tennessee, but I’m getting pretty tired of every time something stupid is quoted in the news, it’s somebody from Tennessee (usually a politician) saying it. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/54 "2010-11-12T21:15:03Z")
I love Texas. The people who aren’t idiots are great. Cost of living is low. The music scene is incredible. But growing up here I’ve seen the ignorant take over more and more and more every year. The schools are terrible, and I’m not suprised, we’ve rasied a couple of generations of people who are proud to be ignorant and now they are voting themselves into office. ---
**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/55 "2010-11-12T21:25:15Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Of all the stupid things that we do in Oklahoma, this doesn’t even make the top 10. We’ve sent Jim Inhofe to the US Senate for 4 times ferchrissakes. I apologize. I worked hard to get him to Congress, and re-elected during my youth in OK. Hell, I considered him a friend. I had NO FUCKING CLUE how batshit he would get over time. He stopped taking my calls back in the 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/56 "2010-11-13T01:46:37Z")
> [@bdgr](#): > > But growing up here I’ve seen the ignorant take over more and more and more every year. The schools are terrible, and I’m not suprised, we’ve rasied a couple of generations of people who are proud to be ignorant and now they are voting themselves into office. You’re quoting me almost word for word back in the 1970s. ---
**Author:** ![Ionizer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5daacb/32.png) [@Ionizer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ionizer)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/57 "2010-11-13T17:19:22Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > Of all the stupid things that we do in Oklahoma, this doesn’t even make the top 10. We’ve sent Jim Inhofe to the US Senate for 4 times ferchrissakes. And then there’s Coburn. He’s gotta be in the Top Ten of Dumbasses in DC. Not even sure where to start about _him_! I agree on Inhofe, too, fwiw. ---
**Author:** ![madrabbitwoman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c37758/32.png) [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080/58 "2010-11-13T21:52:39Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > They’re basically less prissy Brits, so they probably drink a lot of tea … but in a more manly way, like with dingo milk in it or something. Nah - BEER! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-forum-suggest-or-at-least-a-sticky/560080.md?page=2)