# New 'Ghostbusters' Trailer.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838 "2016-03-03T17:42:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/81 "2016-03-05T11:14:14Z")

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Trailer has 131,207 likes, 245,556 dislikes. Haven’t seen anything that hated on YouTube since Rebecca Black - Friday.

Yeah, it’s gonna be a flop.

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/82 "2016-03-05T11:44:39Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Trailer has 131,207 likes, 245,556 dislikes. Haven’t seen anything that hated on YouTube since Rebecca Black - Friday.
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> Yeah, it’s gonna be a flop.

Not necessarily. I remember some cases of internet anger that never panned out. The _“Jurassic World is going to destroy my childhood and this trailer is crap”_ thing, the anger at Ant Man when Edgar Wright was fired, the people getting livid at all the Minions exposure…

Even the widely panned Gods of Egypt isn’t doing that bad.

Sure, there’s enough hostility that it’s probably not going to be a blockbuster- but definitely is not completely dead yet.

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**Author:** ![Cumberdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Cumberdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cumberdale)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/83 "2016-03-05T16:45:03Z")

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I haven’t really been following this other than hearing about it being remade and starring all women in the lead roles. From the way it started, I assumed it was going to be a followup where the original team existed but not involved in any way in the story.

I would’ve preferred a _The Next Generation_ type story rather a redo of the original. Either way, I’ll likely see it.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/84 "2016-03-05T16:56:44Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Trailer has 131,207 likes, 245,556 dislikes. Haven’t seen anything that hated on YouTube since Rebecca Black - Friday.

Just glancing at the comments (I don’t have the stomach to do more than glance), it sure looks like an awful lot of that hate _is_ simply because the movie has an all-female _Ghostbusting_ team. The term “feminist propaganda” comes up repeatedly. That misogynist trolls on the Internet are upset about this movie is unsurprising.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/85 "2016-03-05T18:07:20Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> Trailer has 131,207 likes, 245,556 dislikes. Haven’t seen anything that hated on YouTube since Rebecca Black - Friday.
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> Yeah, it’s gonna be a flop.

You’re actually trying to base an argument on YouTube up votes?

Dude, no. Just… no.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/86 "2016-03-05T18:21:33Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Just glancing at the comments (I don’t have the stomach to do more than glance), it sure looks like an awful lot of that hate _is_ simply because the movie has an all-female _Ghostbusting_ team. The term “feminist propaganda” comes up repeatedly. That misogynist trolls on the Internet are upset about this movie is unsurprising.

You are stronger-stomached than me. The all-fremale cast is pretty awesome. I just wish they did better. I’ll probably see it anyway.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/87 "2016-03-05T19:06:24Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> You’re actually trying to base an argument on YouTube up votes?

It’s the “New Democracy”. Who needs elections or analysis? Just spew the crazy in the comments section of your favorite blog and tally up the numbers.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2016, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/88 "2016-03-05T19:11:15Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Unfortunately and unfairly for Ghostbusters, the last trailer I watched online wasn’t for the original Ghostbusters; it was the [Suicide Squad trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmRih_VtVAs), which may be the best trailer ever made, and is for roughly the same sort of movie (supernatural action/comedy). Seeing Ghostbusters trailer trending, I had my hopes way too high.

Wow, that was a good trailer. Previously, I had no interest in _Suicide Squad_ as I assumed is was going to be just another comic book superhero movie, but now I am intrigued. It looks like it might be a fun action movie.

> [@Lamia](#):
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> The term “feminist propaganda” comes up repeatedly. That misogynist trolls on the Internet are upset about this movie is unsurprising.

I have seen “feminist agenda” comments a number of times now regarding this film. Does anyone know the genesis of this meme? It just seems odd…

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/89 "2016-03-06T06:10:16Z")

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…and [she has responded:

> [@Leslie Jones](#):
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> Why can’t a regular person be a Ghostbuster? I’m confused. And why can’t I be the one who plays them? I am a performer. Just go see the movie!

> [@Leslie Jones](#):
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> IT’S NOT A MAN, WOMAN, RACE, CLASS THANG!! IT’S A GHOSTBUSTER THANG!!

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_PEOPLE\_LESLIE\_JONES\_1ST\_LD\_WRITETHRU?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-03-04-20-52-12](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PEOPLE_LESLIE_JONES_1ST_LD_WRITETHRU?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-03-04-20-52-12))  
On the one hand, I understand that she’s prolly thrilled to be in a major motion picture and even more thrilled because it’s a reboot of a pop culture touchstone.

On the other hand, it’s difficult for me to understand that anyone can’t see the obvious implications of the racial minority sidekick, especially with the gender reversal from the original movie.

On the gripping hand, what’s she gonna do, start slamming the movie months before it’s release and thus doom her own career over a decision she already made and carried thru?

On the other gripping hand (😕), I still think this looks kinda crappy but I agree with **Boyo Jim** that the 2nd slap and the line “The power of pain compels you!” were pretty funny.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/90 "2016-03-06T22:37:26Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> That’s not unfair. The Suicide Squad trailer is laugh out loud funny AND it has some awesome visuals - I love the shot of the Chinook diving in while dropping flares. If Suicide Squad can do that with a bunch of D-listers while Ghostbusters is leeching off of one of the best comedies ever made and can’t even make me crack a smile, it’s Ghostbusters’ own fault.
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> And no, it’s not because it’s an all-female team. If and when the executive producer of _Dredd_ gets his “female Expendables” movie made, I expect it to be awesome. This is not awesome.

D-listers?!? :eek:Will Smith? Jared Leto? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/91 "2016-03-06T23:21:01Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> D-listers?!? :eek:Will Smith? Jared Leto? :dubious:

I’m pretty certain that was referring to the characters, not the actors. Apart from supporting roles from The Joker and maybe Batman, the characters in this one are almost entirely unknown. People have _maybe_ heard of Harley Quinn, but only if they have seen one of the animated shows.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/92 "2016-03-06T23:35:09Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> I’m pretty certain that was referring to the characters, not the actors. Apart from supporting roles from The Joker and maybe Batman, the characters in this one are almost entirely unknown. People have _maybe_ heard of Harley Quinn, but only if they have seen one of the animated shows.

OK, I guess. 😕 Why the fuck is HQ in there? She has \*no powers at all. \*

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/93 "2016-03-07T00:35:32Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> OK, I guess. 😕 Why the fuck is HQ in there? She has \*no powers at all. \*

Neither does Batman, but that doesn’t stop him from being an effective superhero. And Joker a super villain. Why not Harley, too?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/94 "2016-03-07T00:37:40Z")

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I thought it was good enough. Not Mad Max: Fury Road trailer amazing, but not Batman V Superman trailer bad either.

Personally though, I’m a bit sad that Sony couldn’t really get anyone from their wishlist for the movie. The studio originally wanted Emma Stone, Jennifer Lawrence, Lizzy Caplan, Amy Schumer, and Rebel Wilson. Ellie Kemper and Aubrey Plaza were floated at various times too.

But they wanted Melissa McCarthey too and they got her, so maybe it’ll all work out.

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**Author:** ![DJ\_Motorbike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90ced4/32.png) [@DJ\_Motorbike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DJ_Motorbike)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/95 "2016-03-07T01:15:07Z")

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I bet the black chick gets snubbed by the oscars.

No justice, no peace.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/96 "2016-03-07T01:36:00Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Personally though, I’m a bit sad that Sony couldn’t really get anyone from their wishlist for the movie. The studio originally wanted Emma Stone, Jennifer Lawrence, Lizzy Caplan, Amy Schumer, and Rebel Wilson. Ellie Kemper and Aubrey Plaza were floated at various times too.

In what way is that a better list of talent than the cast they have? Lizzy Caplan from _Freaks and Geeks_? Ellie Kemper whose most notable role is the moderate entertaining _Kimmy Schmidt_? And I hate to break it to you but Emma Stone has been about as funny as a wet dishrag in everything since _Easy A_. Amy Schumer is at least funny but mostly by playing an oversexed and self-absorbed sorority girl type, basically either exaggerated version of herself.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/97 "2016-03-07T03:02:02Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> OK, I guess. 😕 Why the fuck is HQ in there? She has \*no powers at all. \*

Most of the Suicide Squad doesn’t, and those who do have decidedly small-potatoes powers at best.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/98 "2016-03-07T05:35:33Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> In what way is that a better list of talent than the cast they have? Lizzy Caplan from _Freaks and Geeks_?

_That’s_ your go-to reference for Lizzy Caplan? A 16-yo minor cult hit that she wasn’t even in the main cast of? Not heard of _Mean Girls_? _Cloverfield_? _Masters of Sex_?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/99 "2016-03-07T05:49:35Z")

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> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> . Amy Schumer is at least funny but mostly by playing an oversexed and self-absorbed sorority girl type, basically either exaggerated version of herself.

Sorority girl? Wtf? Look, you may not like her but she’s kind of the best known female standup right now.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/100 "2016-03-07T08:06:45Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> _That’s_ your go-to reference for Lizzy Caplan? A 16-yo minor cult hit that she wasn’t even in the main cast of? Not heard of _Mean Girls_? _Cloverfield_? _Masters of Sex_?

Yeah, definitely an A-list comedienne, not like Wiig or McKinnon.

> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Sorority girl? Wtf? Look, you may not like her but she’s kind of the best known female standup right now.

Sure, she’s got a good standup routine, and _Trainwreck_ (again, playing an exaggerated version of herself) was a surprise success, but her ability to act in a role that is not based on her experience is not established or in any way assured. Compared to Wiig who has twenty-odd film credits and McKinnon who is already well-acknowledged as doing of the best celebrity impressions and improvisational comedy in recent memory, it is begging the question as to why there is better “dream casting” than what was selected. It’s like asking George Coe and Alan Zweibel cast for the original _Ghostbusters_.

Stranger

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