# New 'Ghostbusters' Trailer. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838 "2016-03-03T17:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/101 "2016-03-07T08:42:53Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Yeah, definitely an A-list comedienne, not like Wiig or McKinnon. She _can_ do comedy - _Hot Tub Time Machine_, _Bachelorette_ etc but that wasn’t my point… ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/102 "2016-03-07T09:01:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > D-listers?!? :eek:Will Smith? Jared Leto? :dubious: I did mean the characters, not the actors. You don’t have a man like Captain Boomerang on your roster if you’re not looking for expendable schmucks. That doesn’t mean they’re bad characters, but it does mean you can’t rely on inertia to do your job selling the comic/movie. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/103 "2016-03-07T09:21:23Z")
Also, I doubt 9 out of 10 people could pick Jared Leto out of a lineup. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/104 "2016-03-07T09:51:59Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Also, I doubt 9 out of 10 people could pick Jared Leto out of a lineup. Especially if the lineup included [Courtney Cox circa 1987](https://fckthispodcast.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/picnik-collage.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/105 "2016-03-07T10:04:56Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Also, I doubt 9 out of 10 people could pick Jared Leto out of a lineup. I dunno, _30 Seconds To Mars_ was quite the popular band… ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/106 "2016-03-07T15:34:08Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > In what way is that a better list of talent than the cast they have? Lizzy Caplan from _Freaks and Geeks_? Ellie Kemper whose most notable role is the moderate entertaining _Kimmy Schmidt_? And I hate to break it to you but Emma Stone has been about as funny as a wet dishrag in everything since _Easy A_. Amy Schumer is at least funny but mostly by playing an oversexed and self-absorbed sorority girl type, basically either exaggerated version of herself. Because I think nearly every one of those actresses is better than the ones we got? I don’t watch SNL, so McKinnon and Jones are complete unknowns to me. I like Wiig well enough, but I’m kind of suffering McCarthy overload. On the other hand… – I liked Lizzy Caplan in Cloverfield and Hot Tub Time Machine. – Emma Stone is good in general, but probably the best thing about the otherwise blah The Amazing Spider-Man. – Ellie Kemper was on The Office and HILARIOUS. Ditto Aubrey Plaza on Parks and Rec. – And Jennifer Lawrence is Jennifer Lawrence. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/107 "2016-03-07T15:55:54Z")
> [@DJ\_Motorbike](#): > > I bet the black chick gets snubbed by the oscars. > > No justice, no peace. Yes, because playing a frankly racist stereotype is exactly the type of role people are upset about being snubbed. I mean, I would take issue with you calling her “the black chick,” but that is the role she appears to be playing, so I can’t fault you. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/108 "2016-03-07T16:00:40Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Because I think nearly every one of those actresses is better than the ones we got? I don’t watch SNL, so McKinnon and Jones are complete unknowns to me. So you don’t have enough information about them to make a decision. I’d actually say McKinnon is the funniest female comedian today. Jones, on the other hand, I assumed was hired to play the “black” roles on SNL when necessary. I’ve never seen her do anything else. And, oddly enough, while I don’t tend to like Wiig, I thought she looked good here. She’s so much better when she plays a more serious character who has silly thing happen to her, rather than trying to be the silly one. McKinnon is much better at that. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/109 "2016-03-07T16:06:13Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, because playing a frankly racist stereotype is exactly the type of role people are upset about being snubbed. I was reading a rumor online that said her character actually has a doctorate in history and is only working in a subway toll booth due to the shitty economy. If true, that’s a brilliant way to play with the cliche. ---
**Author:** ![planetcory](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/planetcory/32/1032_2.png) [@planetcory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/planetcory)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/110 "2016-03-07T16:15:58Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I was reading a rumor online that said her character actually has a doctorate in history and is only working in a subway toll booth due to the shitty economy. > > If true, that’s a brilliant way to play with the cliche. Maybe I’m giving Feig and Co. too much credit, but I really feel like they’re too… culturally savvy(?) to have her be ‘the loud black woman’ and that’s that. A ‘she’s an academic too’ twist wouldn’t surprise me at all. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/111 "2016-03-07T17:26:21Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > I was reading a rumor online that said her character actually has a doctorate in history and is only working in a subway toll booth due to the shitty economy. > > If true, that’s a brilliant way to play with the cliche. She is listed [on one poster](http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.hitfix.com/assets/10250/CcrRJ4HVAAAu6qF.png)as “Municipal Historian” - and why would a booth operator be down in a tunnel, like in the trailer? Plus the guy writing a tie-in novel tweeted: ``` FUN FACT: Average salary of an associate professor of physics: $55k. Average salary of an MTA employee: $80k. https://t.co/5R4Rslubq5 — Andrew Shaffer (@andrewtshaffer) March 4, 2016 so it look like there's *some* awareness of the issues there. ``` ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/112 "2016-03-07T18:03:45Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > She is listed [on one poster](http://s3.amazonaws.com/images.hitfix.com/assets/10250/CcrRJ4HVAAAu6qF.png)as “Municipal Historian” - and why would a booth operator be down in a tunnel, like in the trailer? > > Plus the guy writing a tie-in novel tweeted: > > ``` > FUN FACT: Average salary of an associate professor of physics: $55k. Average salary of an MTA employee: $80k. https://t.co/5R4Rslubq5 > — Andrew Shaffer (@andrewtshaffer) March 4, 2016 so it look like there's *some* awareness of the issues there. > > ``` Not true: > **[Assoc. Professor - Physics Salary | Salary.com](https://www1.salary.com/Assoc-Professor-Physics-Salaries.html)** > > The 2024 average Assoc. Professor - Physics salary in the US is $86,705. What does an Assoc. Professor - Physics make near you? \*The median annual Assoc. Professor - Physics salary is $71,083, as of January 31, 2016, with a range usually between $58,430-$110,181. \* In NYC, it’s much higher than the median. About $90K in fact. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/113 "2016-03-07T18:05:39Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Neither does Batman, but that doesn’t stop him from being an effective superhero. And Joker a super villain. Why not Harley, too? Joker is a super villain, they dont have to have any powers but a diabolical intelligence. Batman is a top of the line trained martial artist with well-beyond-current-tech technological gizmos. Harly has a baseball bat. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/114 "2016-03-07T18:55:03Z")
Well, I guess one might hope they didn’t want to spoil the funny bits in the trailer…? ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/115 "2016-03-07T20:29:13Z")
Bill Murray and Dan Ackroyd were huge comic talents at the peak of their powers. The present cast has no such assets. The trailer reflects this. Can one judge a movie on the strength of its trailer? Let’s just say one can make a pretty shrewd guess as to the quality of the film. Perhaps I’m wrong and it will be a feast of fun and frolic that has the audience rolling in the aisles. I rather doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/116 "2016-03-07T20:43:07Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Not true Irrelevant - when one of the associated writers _thinks_ it’s true, that’s what matters with regard to characterization. Not, grant you, an actual script writer, but still. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/117 "2016-03-08T00:09:29Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Bill Murray and Dan Ackroyd were huge comic talents at the peak of their powers. The present cast has no such assets. The trailer reflects this. Can one judge a movie on the strength of its trailer? Let’s just say one can make a pretty shrewd guess as to the quality of the film. Perhaps I’m wrong and it will be a feast of fun and frolic that has the audience rolling in the aisles. I rather doubt it. Murray was a “huge comic talent” since _Meatballs_ and _Caddyshack_, earning renown for his roles in _Where the Buffalo Roam_ and _Stripes_. Dan Aykroyd was known for playing the straight man for other, better comedic talents (e.g. John Belush, Chevy Chase, Eddie Murphy). His starring turns in films like _1941_ and _Doctor Detroit_ were not well received, and I think the abominable _Nothing But Trouble_ (his only directorial credit) puts paid to the notion that he is innately funny or carried the weight of writing for _Ghostbusters_, whereas Harold Ramis has a number of other good films to his credit. To say that “the present cast has no such assets” is an obtuse statement that does not reflect reality. You may not care for Melissa McCarthy or Kristen Wiig (though the latter’s rendition of the young Lucille Bluth was inarguably the high point of the Netflix-produced fourth series of _Arrested Development_), or have followed Mckinnon’s stellar rise to the top of the SNL players, but they’re all known quantities, and given how animated GIFs of McKinnon winking and licking her ghost-blaster have started populating the Internet like kittens begging for cheeseburgers, I think it is safe to say the the cast has at least some draw with a portion of the viewing public, if not the population of Reddit posters. As for being able to “make a pretty shrewd guess as to the quality of the film” from the trailer, go take a look at the link to the trailer for the 1984 version of _Ghostbusters_; it’s about as funny as drinking wood varnish, with Murray appearing almost asleep. Again, trailers are rarely made by the filmmakers themselves and often don’t reflect the director’s vision or focus of the film. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/118 "2016-03-08T00:51:58Z")
To be fair, looking over trailers from some of the most popular movies of 1984, they all suck by modern standards. Slower pacing, usually a narrator over it and just sort of disjointed. As opposed to trailers today which are sort of built like a little 2 minute movie themselves (often even with scenes not in the actual films), the old ones look like someone just took random clips, taped them together and hired a guy to talk over it. Point being that saying “The trailer for the original Ghostbusters isn’t funny” doesn’t prove much. It was a different time for movie trailers. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/119 "2016-03-08T01:23:38Z")
As a thought experiment, what if the reboot had an all-male main cast featuring three white comedy actors plus Chris Tucker as his Chris-Tuckeriest. I can think I can honestly say my reaction would be similar. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/120 "2016-03-08T01:29:28Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Can one judge a movie on the strength of its trailer? Let’s just say one can make a pretty shrewd guess as to the quality of the film. Whenever I see someone make this particular mistake, I feel compelled to link to [the original trailer for _Star Wars_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP_1T4ilm8M). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838.md?page=7)