# New 'Ghostbusters' Trailer. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838 "2016-03-03T17:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/161 "2016-03-11T18:14:02Z")
None of those quotes say what you claim they say - chiefly, because the only person perceiving the Ghostbusters in this thread as doormats is yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/162 "2016-03-11T18:56:37Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > None of those quotes say what you claim they say - chiefly, because the only person perceiving the Ghostbusters in this thread as doormats is yourself. I was claiming that the quotes I selected are from people arguing that this scene was putting sexist idiots in their place. If that’s what this scene was intended to do (which I doubt), then showing the women reacting in a “delicate”, “dumbfounded”, “polite”, “don’t want to upset him” manner is hardly a stringing rebuke to sexism. Those are other people’s descriptions of the women’s behavior, not mine. “Doormat” was my word, but reacting to a sexist idiot who works for you by delicately trying not to upset him is being a doormat. If Chris Hemsworth isn’t supposed to be a sexist idiot but is instead a nice but kinda clueless guy, which I suspect is the case, then IMHO this isn’t a great scene to use in the trailer but neither is it horribly offensive. But don’t try to tell me it shows a sexist idiot gets skewered when the women are basically just sitting there looking uncomfortable. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/163 "2016-03-11T19:14:50Z")
I just found the trailer very ‘meh’. It doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of humor that’s going to click for me, it felt more ‘you’re supposed to laugh at this’ than ‘this is funny’. Most movie trailers today make me go ‘yeah, I want to see that’ at least for a bit, but this put it into the ‘maybe I’ll catch it on Netflix if someone reminds me about it’ list. Like someone said earlier, 80s trailers are pretty much all trash by today’s standards, so ‘but the original ghostbusters trailer sucks’ isn’t really relevant. Also, I really don’t like the uniforms for some reason, something seems off about them to me. I’m not sure what it is exactly, but they just don’t seem right. ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/164 "2016-03-11T19:34:38Z")
> [@Lamia](#): > > Why should they try to be delicate with someone who you said represented the people who made a big deal about women being Ghostbusters? Their delicate reaction is not “skewering” such views, it’s letting him get away with it. Well, I would have to guess, and it relates to looking back at the original and seeing it as inspiration for this incarnation. The main characters were archetypes: the nerd (Egon), the “enthusiast” (Ray; I don’t know what to call this, but he’s the one who geeks out about ghosts and is generally positive/optimistic), the horndog (Peter), and the regular guy (Winston). A huge part of the comedy and jokes are based on the scientist characters (in particular Peter but also Ray) being varying degrees of clueless, awkward, or downright inappropriate in their interactions with women. That includes being paternalistic and condescending. Spin that around to this little snippet of this scene – who is in it? – the three scientist characters, being awkward with a member of the opposite sex. Treating him, _in my opinion_, with a condescending sort of “well, at least you tried the best you can” kind of attitude. Ultimately, I guess we just see it differently. The guy’s like “hey boobs, ya know, 'cause you’re women” and gets the “you are such a fucking idiot” treatment, and it doesn’t look to me like he’s getting away with anything. ---
**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/165 "2016-03-11T21:41:45Z")
> [@](#): > > But the Leslie Jones character doesn’t invoke the power of Christ, God, the Holy Spirit, or any other divine power. She uses her own name, which seems like a big hint that she’s not relying upon her religious faith to save Melissa McCarthy. To me , it’s a big hint that you’re supposed to laugh _at_ Patty, not with her. I mean, come on! _“The power of Patty compels you?”_ What the fuck is _that?_ ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/166 "2016-03-11T21:48:06Z")
> [@troub](#): > > Ultimately, I guess we just see it differently. The guy’s like “hey boobs, ya know, 'cause you’re women” and gets the “you are such a fucking idiot” treatment, and it doesn’t look to me like he’s getting away with anything. If the only consequences for him are a frown and an awkward “Ah…” then that’s getting away with it. Elsewhere in the trailer is looks like Hemsworth is treated like a worthy member of the team, not a useless idiot. Which is okay if this is just a dumb boob joke and his character is supposed to be a decent guy. But if he’s supposed to be a sexist idiot representing those who have a problem with the very idea of female Ghostbusters then the “delicate” reaction he gets leaves a lot to be desired. Again, I was fine with this just being a dumb boob joke. I didn’t _like_ it, but I didn’t feel the need to read some deeper meaning into it. But as soon as I called it a dumb boob joke, I suddenly had a bunch of posters trying to argue with me about how it was really skewering the sexist idiots of the world. That’s a lot of weight for a dumb boob joke to carry, and this one isn’t up to the task. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/167 "2016-03-11T22:02:53Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > Also, I really don’t like the uniforms for some reason, something seems off about them to me. I’m not sure what it is exactly, but they just don’t seem right. Is it the boobs? Because I could make 'em biggah. ---
**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/168 "2016-03-12T15:09:40Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Is it the boobs? Because I could make 'em biggah. No, though that’s a good callback and it’s not just that women are wearing them either. The outfits read to me as too ‘styled’ to be utility but not styled enough to look cool. The original ones looked like utility coveralls with a name tag and patch sewed onto them. These read to me like someone was trying to style a costume but stopped halfway through the design, like they were trying to make a cool uniform but got distracted. It wouldn’t kill the movie for me, but does contribute to the feeling that it probably won’t hold together. Also another thought from earlier in the thread, I always though Venkman in the original was supposed to be a bit creepy, even as a kid I didn’t read him as a clean hero, but as someone sleazy and pushy who kept not doing what he was supposed to do to make a play for the ladies. I think he comes off as more inappropriate by today’s standards, but I never felt like he was supposed to be not doing anything wrong. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/169 "2016-05-19T01:27:04Z")
…and drops the second trailer: It's a little better, but it still stars all females. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/170 "2016-05-19T01:37:36Z")
It looks positively awful. ---
**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/171 "2016-05-19T01:40:50Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > It looks positively awful. lol I know. I wanted it to be good. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/172 "2016-05-19T01:41:21Z")
The second trailer made me chuckle only once, at 2:04. Not a good sign. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/173 "2016-05-19T10:23:40Z")
The second trailer was much better than the first. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/174 "2016-05-19T12:32:59Z")
Big improvement! Hopefully they fired the guy who made the first one… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/175 "2016-05-19T13:59:13Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > The second trailer made me chuckle only once, at 2:04. Not a good sign. Yeah, I don’t think I cracked a smile. Neither did my wife who is still in “Well, maybe it’s just a bad trailer” denial mode. ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/176 "2016-05-19T14:16:39Z")
Okay, the new trailer made me laugh at the end. It was something of an improvement over the last one, which was just obnoxious and unfunny. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/177 "2016-05-19T14:20:23Z")
Selfie stick!! ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/178 "2016-05-19T14:28:42Z")
I wonder if Hemsworth’s character was hired in order to deal with misogynist people who expect a male to manage the team. (Like the premise of _Remington Steele_.) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/179 "2016-05-19T14:46:18Z")
It looks and sounds like a mediocre film. I’m generally annoyed at the idea of yet another reboot/sequel gracing our screens for the usual reason that it bespeaks a lack of innovation and imagination in Hollywood. Frankly, using a female cast is at least doing something novel with the film whether it works or not. I’ll wait for it to hit television before watching (or catch it on a flight, which is where I see most films these days). Still, as reboots/sequels go it’s gotta be better than the Nth version of _Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles_ (now with extra grittiness!). And as a sidenote, I will add that while I find most of McCarthy’s work uneven, I really liked _Spy_. So there’s that. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838/180 "2016-05-19T15:19:58Z")
I’ll probably go see this, because my wife so desperately wants Hollywood to start making women-centered action films. I expect it to be mediocre, but that’s fine, I can watch a mediocre movie, done it before. Maybe it’ll make me laugh. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ghostbusters-trailer/747838.md?page=10)