# New Gun **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909 "2012-11-13T19:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/1 "2012-11-13T19:13:15Z")
One of [these](http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroBisley/models.html) bad boys in .357 magnum. Just picking it up makes me feel like I’m a movie cowboy. ---
**Author:** ![Lukeinva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lukeinva/32/17872_2.png) [@Lukeinva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lukeinva)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/2 "2012-11-13T19:16:35Z")
A real movie cowboy, or a simulated movie cowboy? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/3 "2012-11-13T19:16:50Z")
Nice. I have the [7-1/2" blued Blackhawk in .45LC](http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkBlued/specSheets/0455.html), only mine has wooden stocks. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/4 "2012-11-13T19:17:33Z")
Ooo, very nice. Sometimes I think about a revolver but isn’t the recoil kind of difficult? I find I have a tough time with pistols anyway - I just don’t have enough wrist control, whereas with a rifle/shotgun at least I can put it on my shoulder. My rifle accuracy is fairly good; my pistol shots go all over the place. I mean, I’d kill the dude, eventually, but not before he bled all over my floor. 🙂 If I got a pistol, I’d get one with a fairly small calibre. Maybe a PPK, if we’re going to go the cool route! That is a sleek gun. ETA: The Blackhawk is pretty cool too. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/5 "2012-11-13T19:21:18Z")
> [@Lukeinva](#): > > A real movie cowboy, or a simulated movie cowboy? A fictional movie cowboy. I’m a character in a meta-Western when I handle that revolver. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/6 "2012-11-13T19:22:34Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Ooo, very nice. Sometimes I think about a revolver but isn’t the recoil kind of difficult? > > If I got a pistol, I’d get one with a fairly small calibre. Maybe a PPK, if we’re going to go the cool route! Back in the late-'80s I went to an indoor range with a coworker on our lunch hour. He felt the .45LC had too much recoil. (I didn’t think so.) He preferred his S&W .38 Spl. **Scumpup** ’s revolver should be usable with .38 Spl., so one of those might suit you. I used to have a Walther PPK/S back in the '80s. I trtaded it away, and eventually bought a stainless steel PPK/S. In the decade since I bought it, I haven’t gotten round to firing it yet. But it probably shoots like my first (blue) one and will be fun. Very James Bond. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/7 "2012-11-13T19:25:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Nice. I have the [7-1/2" blued Blackhawk in .45LC](http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelBlackhawkBlued/specSheets/0455.html), only mine has wooden stocks. I have a blued Blackhawk in .357 which is a very nice gun, but it never filled that movie cowboy gun-shaped void in my soul. The adjustable rear sight and target-style front sight give it the wrong silhouette. The Vaquero balances better, too, because it has a steel grip frame and ejector rod shroud. Those parts are aluminum alloy in my Blackhawk. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/8 "2012-11-13T19:38:26Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > The adjustable rear sight and target-style front sight give it the wrong silhouette. True. Years ago I thought I might buy a more traditional ‘Colt’ (possibly Uberti, since I like them). But I have waaaaaay too many guns already, and would rather spend my money on other things. (If anyone wants an unfired Shiloh Sharps #3 Sporting Rifle, let me know!) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/9 "2012-11-13T19:47:19Z")
Is that a vintage revolver? If so then don’t carry it with a round under the hammer. It can discharge if the pistol is dropped. I know because I inherited a Ruger single six .22 revolver. Bought in 1960. Ruger offers a retro fit to make it safer. But, I want to leave the gun in original condition. It’s good practice to never carry any older revolver with a round under the hammer. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/10 "2012-11-13T19:58:01Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Is that a vintage revolver? If so then don’t carry it with a round under the hammer. It can discharge if the pistol is dropped. I took the OP to mean that he bought a new one, which is a two-screw with a transfer bar. I bought a vintage three-screw Single-Six specifically because it was the ‘unsafe’ version. ---
**Author:** ![solosam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@solosam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solosam)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/11 "2012-11-13T20:04:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Sometimes I think about a revolver but isn’t the recoil kind of difficult Nah. If you are shooting one of those ludicrous .454 Casulls, it might be. A .357 SAA? Nah. Also, this is a Bisley model. The handle is specifically shaped to reduce the movement in the shooter’s hand. I’ve lusted after the Bisley for a while. I bought a pair of Cimarron Model P’s in .45 LC. If I had to do it over again, I would have bought the Bisleys in .357/.38. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/12 "2012-11-13T20:39:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I took the OP to mean that he bought a new one, which is a two-screw with a transfer bar. > > I bought a vintage three-screw Single-Six specifically because it was the ‘unsafe’ version. There aren’t any “vintage” Vaqueros. Ruger didn’t start producing them until the 1990’s. This is the Bisley variant of the New Vaquero which began production in 2005. The Vaquero is safe to carry with 6 cartridges and has been since introduction. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/13 "2012-11-13T21:31:35Z")
I was nearly 100% sure that was the case; but I’m working and didn’t have time to research it. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/14 "2012-11-13T22:18:14Z")
Nice revolver, **Scumpup**! ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/15 "2012-11-14T02:08:36Z")
I own hundreds of guns, and not one single action revolver.:eek: A while back, some guy showed up next to me at the range with one and we got talking. Pretty soon, he offered to let me shoot it. As I found my target, my finger went to the trigger, and BOOM! Scared the crap out of me, and guns rarely do that. I unloaded it and found it had about a 4oz trigger :eek: I sent Mr. this-is-the-first-time-I’ve-shot-mom’s-gun on his way with his promise to see a gunsmith toot-sweet. Sweet Bisley! ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/16 "2012-11-14T02:27:45Z")
I have a brass frame grip Blackhawk in .357, never shot it. Supposed to be a fairly low production model with the brass frames. But like you say, not cowboy! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/17 "2012-11-14T02:46:59Z")
Nice revolver, OP. I own exactly one gun, a Stoeger Cougar .45 it’s this one: [http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger-cougar.php](http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger-cougar.php) I so want to get that flashlight attachment for the Zombie Apocalypse. I don’t get people that own hundreds of guns but that’s just me. I plan on purchasing exactly TWO more guns A Mossberg 500 shottie like this: (either the tactical tri-rail or the thunder ranch): [http://www.mossberg.com/products/shotguns/pump-action/500-special-purpose](http://www.mossberg.com/products/shotguns/pump-action/500-special-purpose) And then an AR-15. I like this one: [http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemDetail.aspx?sku=2-CMMGM4LE&ingb=Y&utm\_source=blog&utm\_medium=social&utm\_campaign=20111227-socialCMMGM4LE](http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemDetail.aspx?sku=2-CMMGM4LE&ingb=Y&utm_source=blog&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=20111227-socialCMMGM4LE) Having three such varied weapons and a small stockpile of ammo should be enough for anyone, outside of collectors. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/18 "2012-11-14T02:51:45Z")
I have a Taurus Tracker .357 magnum that is fun. I would love a .44 magnum Smith! ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/19 "2012-11-14T03:19:47Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Ooo, very nice. Sometimes I think about a revolver but isn’t the recoil kind of difficult? I find I have a tough time with pistols anyway - I just don’t have enough wrist control, whereas with a rifle/shotgun at least I can put it on my shoulder. My rifle accuracy is fairly good; my pistol shots go all over the place. I mean, I’d kill the dude, eventually, but not before he bled all over my floor. 🙂 > > If I got a pistol, I’d get one with a fairly small calibre. Maybe a PPK, if we’re going to go the cool route! > > That is a sleek gun. > ETA: The Blackhawk is pretty cool too. If you have issues with recoil, just getting a slightly smaller caliber is not necessarily the answer. And I would definitely not recommend a PPK for you at all, in that case. I own a Walther PPK (.380) and a Walther P99 (9mm) and the PPK kicks a hell of a lot more, even though it has the smaller load. Generally, a smaller gun with a shorter barrel will produce considerably more kick. And the PPK tends to bite into your thumb knuckle, typically leaving you with a bloody knuckle after extended target practice. Also, the PPK is picky about ammo - it pretty much only reliably takes FMJ ball ammo. Finally, the workmanship on the American-made (Interarms) PPKs often leave a lot to be desired. They sure are pretty, but unfortunately, with so many better alternatives available, that’s about the only reason to get one - particularly if you’re looking for something with minimal recoil. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/20 "2012-11-14T10:25:31Z")
> [@solosam](#): > > Nah. If you are shooting one of those ludicrous .454 Casulls, it might be. couple of weeks ago at the range some guy was shooting a .500 S&W revolver. I swear the report was just as loud as the 12-ga I was shooting. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909.md?page=2)