# New Gun **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 13, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909 "2012-11-13T19:13:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/21 "2012-11-14T12:00:06Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > One of [these](http://www.ruger.com/products/vaqueroBisley/models.html) bad boys in .357 magnum. Just picking it up makes me feel like I’m a movie cowboy. Get two of them, and you can feel like Yosemite Sam! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Luk3112](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a9adbd/32.png) [@Luk3112](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luk3112)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/22 "2012-11-14T12:49:12Z")
Fuck yeah. nice. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/23 "2012-11-14T13:00:32Z")
> [@EmilyG](#): > > Get two of them, and you can feel like Yosemite Sam! 😉 The one I bought is actually from a matched pair. The dealer, who I cannot help but consider something of an ass, broke up the set by selling off my gun’s mate the previous day. I’d like to get the mate but don’t see myself tracking down the owner and trying to coax him out of it. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/24 "2012-11-14T16:08:15Z")
Nice gun! I’ve got a Vaquero in .45 Long Colt that I don’t shoot nearly enough… ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/25 "2012-11-16T00:23:32Z")
> [@August\_West](#): > > Nice gun! I’ve got a Vaquero in .45 Long Colt that I don’t shoot nearly enough.. Is there a difference between .45 Long Colt and .45 Colt? I’m drooling over a Colt Peacemaker in .45 Colt - would love to buy one. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/26 "2012-11-16T00:40:29Z")
> [@echo7tango](#): > > Is there a difference between .45 Long Colt and .45 Colt? I’m drooling over a Colt Peacemaker in .45 Colt - would love to buy one. From Wiki: > [@](#): > > The .45 Colt cartridge is a handgun cartridge dating to 1872. It began as a black powder revolver round developed for the Colt Single Action Army revolver, but is offered as a magnum level handgun hunting round in modern usage. This cartridge was adopted by the U.S. Army in 1873 and served as the official US military handgun cartridge for 19 years. This cartridge is often eroneously referred to as the “.45 Long Colt”, even though there has never been a .45 short Colt. But I’m still calling it .45 Long Colt. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/27 "2012-11-16T00:49:15Z")
the name comes from when the army was issuing both the SAA and the Schofield. The Schofield took a slightly shorter .45 cartridge that could be used in either gun. At first, the army carried both cartridges in inventory with the SAA cartridges packed in boxes marked “.45 long, Colt” to indicate they were the longer cartridges that could be used only in the Colt pistol. Eventually, they dropped it from inventory and used only the slightly shorter sSchofield cartridge. Or so said an article in one of the major gun magazines back when there was no internet. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/28 "2012-11-16T04:11:30Z")
Thanks guys. I imagine a gun like that would make me feel like a 19th century cowboy, as like when the OP says a Ruger Bisley Vaquero in .357 magnum would. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/29 "2012-11-17T02:07:28Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > The one I bought is actually from a matched pair. I was thinking about this thread. The stainless steel in 5.5 as a matched pair would rock in walnut stocks and .357 ACP. Yeah, yeah, wrong state, wrong century. ---
**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/30 "2012-11-17T03:54:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > From Wiki: > > But I’m still calling it .45 Long Colt. Me too. You say “.45 Colt” and 90% of the people who know anything about firearms will think you mean ACP. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/31 "2012-11-17T16:15:54Z")
_public apology_ I said ACP when I meant caliber. Yes, ACPs are for automatics, not for the revolvers mentioned by the OP. It reminds me of a scene from a movie from the 80s called “The Survivors”. Donald: Jaaaack? Jack: Yeah? Donald: Time out, OK? Jack: Time out? Donald: Time out. Jack: What do you mean, ‘time out?’ Donald: You’re not gonna believe this. I was in a hurry when I left the cabin this morning, and, well, silly me, I got the wrong bullets… ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/32 "2012-11-17T16:21:53Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > … and, well, silly me, I got the wrong bullets… Yeah, there’s an “oh shit” moment. He’s feeling pretty naked about that time. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/33 "2012-11-17T18:20:58Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Ooo, very nice. Sometimes I think about a revolver but isn’t the recoil kind of difficult? I find I have a tough time with pistols anyway - I just don’t have enough wrist control, whereas with a rifle/shotgun at least I can put it on my shoulder. My rifle accuracy is fairly good; my pistol shots go all over the place. I mean, I’d kill the dude, eventually, but not before he bled all over my floor. 🙂 Recoil shouldn’t affect accuracy, unless you’re flinching in anticipation; possibly it’s that the revolvers you’ve shot had too high a trigger pull and you couldn’t pull cleanly. Or do you mean a pistol just being too long and heavy to keep the sights on target? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909/34 "2012-11-17T20:30:35Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Recoil shouldn’t affect accuracy, unless you’re flinching in anticipation; possibly it’s that the revolvers you’ve shot had too high a trigger pull and you couldn’t pull cleanly. Or do you mean a pistol just being too long and heavy to keep the sights on target? That’s a main reason for missing the bull, anticipating the recoil. That’ll usually move the bullet strike down. Anaamika’s rounds going “all over the place” tell me there are several things going on, including sight picture/alignment, trigger control, grip… And, I’m not sure she’d ‘kill the dude, eventually’. He might keep coming after her and close the distance. He’d be wounded, but mortally? I’m not convinced. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-gun/640909.md?page=1)