# New Hampshire Primary 02/09/16

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 2, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965 "2016-02-02T17:22:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/21 "2016-02-05T02:05:19Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The Nevada hotel workers’ union had some nasty things to say about the Sanders campaign, I don’t know if they have formally endorsed Clinton or not.

Not sure why you brought this up several days after the whole kerfuffle had been put to rest. Hell, I’m not even sure it happened the way that the press release and Jon Ralston’s article made out.

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**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/22 "2016-02-05T02:06:06Z")

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Sanders, Trump will win New Hampshire. Christie will come in third place.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/23 "2016-02-05T02:10:30Z")

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Clinton and Sanders (and not O’Malley) now debating on CNN. Right now she’s arguing about his trying to own the word “progressive.”

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It has . . . it has actually become a label candidates **fight** over! 😃

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/24 "2016-02-05T02:25:02Z")

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Sanders is of course expected to have a blow out of HRC in NH. Last poll was up by 31 and RCP rolling avg is up almost 20.

Given that the game is all about meeting or disappointing expectations … is the a result short of an outright Sanders loss in NH that would be consider a “functional win” for Hillary?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2016, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/25 "2016-02-05T04:26:09Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Not sure why you brought this up several days after the whole kerfuffle had been put to rest. Hell, I’m not even sure it happened the way that the press release and Jon Ralston’s article made out.

I was responding to:

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> Originally Posted by adaher View Post  
> Don’t be so sure about Nevada. It’s a caucus state with heavy union involvement.  
> Many of which unions have endorsed Clinton.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/26 "2016-02-09T17:38:05Z")

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[Sanders and Trump hold strong leads in the polls.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/09/sanders-and-trump-poised-win-new-hampshire-primary-poll-says/80047724/#)

Dem: 35% Clinton, 61% Sanders.  
Pub: 31% Trump, 17% Rubio, Cruz 14%, Kasich 10%, Bush 7%.

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> New Hampshire is home to a large percentage of independent voters and they are free to vote in either party’s primary. The Sanders campaign has been concerned that independents, who tend to favor him, would instead vote in the narrower Republican race. Yet the poll shows independents are about evenly split over which race they’ll vote in.
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> About 36% of those surveyed said they still hadn’t definitely decided who they’d vote for.

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**Author:** ![Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/do_not_taunt/32/2968_2.png) [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Do_Not_Taunt)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/27 "2016-02-09T23:46:13Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Sanders is of course expected to have a blow out of HRC in NH. Last poll was up by 31 and RCP rolling avg is up almost 20.
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> Given that the game is all about meeting or disappointing expectations … is the a result short of an outright Sanders loss in NH that would be consider a “functional win” for Hillary?

My gut feel is 55/45 or better is a functional win for Hillary, anything from there down to 40 is sorta a meh, and if she gets under 40, the Sanders blowout is going to be the story.

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**Author:** ![Flyer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/flyer/32/7298_2.png) [@Flyer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flyer)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/28 "2016-02-09T23:46:44Z")

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For what it’s worth, here’s some information from the exit polls.

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> ## Overall, 65 percent of Republicans and 53 percent of Democrats said that recent debates were an important factor in their vote today. Among GOP voters who only made up their minds in the last few days, fully 74 percent said the debates figured prominently into their decision.
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> The NBC News Exit Poll found many more Republicans (43 percent) than Democrats (12 percent) who say they actually feel angry about how the federal government is working. Only 7 percent of Republicans have positive feelings about Washington, compared to 37 percent of Democrats.
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> Three quarters of Republicans (75 percent) are very worried about the direction the U.S. economy is heading, and another 19 percent are somewhat worried. Fewer Democrats (27 percent) are very worried about the economy, with another 50 percent who are somewhat worried.

> **[New Hampshire: Countdown to the First In the Nation Primary](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/new-hampshire-countdown-first-nation-primary-n513356)**
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> Full coverage: Every angle on the races can be found at Decision 2016.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/29 "2016-02-10T00:13:08Z")

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> Three quarters of Republicans (75 percent) are very worried about the direction the U.S. economy is heading, and another 19 percent are somewhat worried.

I know I’m worried SICK that within the next couple of years, I might see an increase in both my net income and my net worth. It’s frustrating as hell to think that if we continue on this course, the whole ddamn country might actually be better off. :mad:

😛

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/30 "2016-02-10T00:44:07Z")

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With 2% of precincts reporting, Rubio is currently in 5th place. Trump is way out front in first and Mr. Slime himself Ted Cruz is in 2nd.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/31 "2016-02-10T00:45:59Z")

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When do the polls close?

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/32 "2016-02-10T00:47:44Z")

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From what I understand, most polls close at 7:00 and a few close at 8:00

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/33 "2016-02-10T00:48:24Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> With 2% of precincts reporting, Rubio is currently in 5th place. Trump is way out front in first and Mr. Slime himself Ted Cruz is in 2nd.

I see: 2% reporting

Vote… %

Trump 34.3%  
Katich 14.9%  
Bush 11.2%  
Cruz 10.2%  
Rubio 9.9%

ETA: for Dems

3% reporting

Sanders 53.8%  
Clinton 43.6%  
O’Malley 0.3%

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/34 "2016-02-10T00:48:53Z")

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With 7% of precincts reporting, Cruz has dropped to fourth place. Rubio is still in 5th.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/35 "2016-02-10T00:50:29Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I see: 2% reporting
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> Vote %
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> Trump 34.3%  
> Katich 14.9%  
> Bush 11.2%  
> Cruz 10.2%  
> Rubio 9.9%

Please, oh please imaginary Jesus, let this be the final breakdown. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/36 "2016-02-10T00:52:09Z")

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> [@Do\_Not\_Taunt](#):
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> The interesting questions are all on the Republican side. The NH Democrats are going to give Sanders a win, which his supporters will make a huge deal out of, and then Clinton will win NV, SC, and Super Tuesday.
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> The Republicans OTOH! Will Rubio get much of a bounce? Can Christie/Kasich continue to contest the ‘establishment lane’? Will Trump slide, now that his invincibility has been punctured? I have no idea!

In Iowa, Sanders won the youth vote by a 6-1 margin. If he can make inroads among non-whites he will be a pretty strong contender.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/37 "2016-02-10T00:53:15Z")

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Who ever here had Fiorina beating Carson was right, at least at this stage.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/38 "2016-02-10T00:54:54Z")

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Crap. With 10% reporting Rubio has moved into 4th place. ☹

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/39 "2016-02-10T00:58:32Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Crap. With 10% reporting Rubio has moved into 4th place. ☹

Oops. i’m saying percent when I should say precincts. 10 _precincts_ have reported (3 percent).

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-02-09-16/744965/40 "2016-02-10T01:00:04Z")

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I’m so glad Cruz is not leading. I’ll even take Trump over him.

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