# New Hampshire Primary Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 6, 2020, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563 "2020-02-06T20:33:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/21 "2020-02-10T16:10:34Z")

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Biden will stay for Super Tuesday but hopefully he throws in the towel after that.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/22 "2020-02-10T16:19:53Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Biden will stay for Super Tuesday but hopefully he throws in the towel after that.

I’m wondering if he drops out if he loses the SC primary. That was supposed to be his firewall.

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/23 "2020-02-10T16:41:02Z")

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SC is 3 days before super tuesday so it would not make sense for Biden to drop out after SC unless he does very badly there.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/24 "2020-02-10T18:36:27Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> SC is 3 days before super tuesday so it would not make sense for Biden to drop out after SC unless he does very badly there.

Yeah, and we’re less than a month away. Even if any of the remaining candidate runs out of money, no one is “officially” dropping out until after Super Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/25 "2020-02-10T21:11:05Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Yeah, and we’re less than a month away. Even if any of the remaining candidate runs out of money, no one is “officially” dropping out until after Super Tuesday.

Not even Yang?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/26 "2020-02-10T23:23:32Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Not even Yang?

Yang’s got his cult sending him money and he isn’t really running to win. He’ll drop lot when he’s bored, I don’t think he’s making any more debates.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/27 "2020-02-10T23:55:21Z")

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Depends on where he’s going with this. If he wants to parlay the name recognition he gained from this run into a serious run for some other office in the future, he’ll earn more goodwill by getting out early than sticking around as a distraction. If that’s not in his plans, who knows?

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/28 "2020-02-10T23:57:28Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> SC is 3 days before super tuesday so it would not make sense for Biden to drop out after SC unless he does very badly there.

Didn’t realize it was that soon. At that point, I don’t know why you’d even bother dropping out no matter how badly you did; the costs of the Super Tuesday campaigning (literal and figurative) are already sunk. Might as well stick around, you might pick up a few more delegates, which could give you a bit more leverage in the event of a contested convention.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/29 "2020-02-11T01:27:26Z")

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Well, he might drop out after a terrible SC to give the other more centrist candidates a running shot at Super Tuesday. I think his ego could handle it and here I go: endorsing Bloomberg is what he should do at that time.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/30 "2020-02-11T02:56:28Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Well, he might drop out after a terrible SC to give the other more centrist candidates a running shot at Super Tuesday. I think his ego could handle it and here I go: endorsing Bloomberg is what he should do at that time.

Maybe, but a lot of Super Tuesday voting will already been done by then. A lot of states have some form of early voting.

Colorado in particular is 100% mail in ballots. They went out to the voters today, and many will have already been returned before the results of South Carolina’s bissextile primary are known.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/31 "2020-02-11T03:09:54Z")

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Early voting is something I’ve thought about. Remember, he’s been slamming those states a while now with ads. If this “any moderate but Biden” vibe I’m getting from Iowa and NH polling is more widespread, may Bloomberg got a few of those early ballots.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/32 "2020-02-11T05:31:45Z")

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First returns are in from New Hampshire: [With 100% of the vote reporting from Dixville Notch, Mike Bloomberg takes an early lead, receiving 60% of the votes.](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-02-11/small-new-hampshire-town-votes-for-bloomberg-in-primary)

Three write-in votes went to Bloomberg, one vote went to Buttigieg and one went to Sanders.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/33 "2020-02-11T05:57:26Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> First returns are in from New Hampshire: [With 100% of the vote reporting from Dixville Notch, Mike Bloomberg takes an early lead, receiving 60% of the votes.](https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-02-11/small-new-hampshire-town-votes-for-bloomberg-in-primary)
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> Three write-in votes went to Bloomberg, one vote went to Buttigieg and one went to Sanders.

Upon closer examination, Bloomberg only received 50% of the Democratic vote, but received 100% of the Republican vote.

D  
Bloomberg 2  
Buttigieg 1  
Sanders 1

R  
Bloomberg 1

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/34 "2020-02-11T13:24:04Z")

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Pete is on MSNBC and looks like he forgot to shave or maybe shaved last night.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/35 "2020-02-11T14:51:08Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Pete is on MSNBC and looks like he forgot to shave or maybe shaved last night.

Perhaps deliberately trying to convey he’s the “hardest working man in show business,” like that 1950s (?) photo of some politician’s hole in his shoe (his opponent mocked him, but he turned it around into an asset).

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/36 "2020-02-11T15:19:02Z")

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That was Adlai Stevenson. He made it one of his campaign icons. I used to have a silver pin in the form of a miniature shoe displaying a hole in its sole. Sadly it got stolen by a mover when my parents moved and their small lockbox disappeared. Of course, Stevenson didn’t have a chance against Eisenhower.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/37 "2020-02-11T15:28:54Z")

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Call me crazy, but I think Klobuchar has a chance to finish 2nd tonight or even outright win. Momentum is with her. I think the moderate lane is abandoning Biden and the leftist lane seems to be abandoning Warren. Mayor Pete has peaked and I think is going to fade as quickly as he rose.

My ticket for November: Klobuchar-Booker

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/38 "2020-02-11T15:45:27Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Call me crazy, but I think Klobuchar has a chance to finish 2nd tonight or even outright win. Momentum is with her. I think the moderate lane is abandoning Biden and the leftist lane seems to be abandoning Warren. Mayor Pete has peaked and I think is going to fade as quickly as he rose.
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> My ticket for November: Klobuchar-Booker

My suggestion is turn off MSNBC. Way too little too late for Klobucharmania.

1. Bernie
2. Pete
3. Warren
4. Hmmm, this is where it gets interesting. Ok, I’ll go out on a limb and say Klobuchar
5. Biden, that is one floundering campaign

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/39 "2020-02-11T16:44:19Z")

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> [@Thing\_Fish](#):
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> Warren really needs to finish second or third at least, because if she can’t do well in lily-white States, where exactly is she going to win? Same for Buttigieg, except he needs a strong showing even more, because his national support is still minuscle.

I think Warren has the potential to do better after NH because, [as Astead Herndon wrote in the NYT](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/07/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-pete-buttigieg.html), “Elizabeth Warren Has a Pete Buttigieg Problem.” Among white voters (which is all you’ve got in IA/NH), they’re competing for the same group of college-educated progressive voters. And IA and NH have been the only two states where Buttigieg’s been polling in the mid-20s for some time, rather than the 7-8% he’s at nationally.

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**Post date:** [February 11, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hampshire-primary-discussion/847563/40 "2020-02-11T17:48:21Z")

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[PredictIt](https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/5344/Who-will-win-the-2020-New-Hampshire-Democratic-primary) has it as a two way race as of this posting, and not a very close one.

Bernie @ 82¢  
Pete @ 18¢

The only other candidate above 1¢ is Klobuchar at 4¢. If anyone actually believes that she has a chance to win you can’t beat that price. It would be pretty easy to make some money on that if she just showed well in early returns.

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