# New Hulk: the worlds most expensive... **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 12, 2008, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669 "2008-06-12T10:26:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/61 "2008-06-15T19:49:10Z")
Thanks \*\*RikWriter \*\*and **ArizonaTeach** ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/62 "2008-06-15T21:26:05Z")
[QUOTE=RikWriter] It wasn’t a British uniform at all, it was a US Air Force Class A uniform with Army insignia on it. [/QUOTE] Air Force doesn’t have Class A’s as far as I know 😃 The nearest equivilant for the USAF is Service Dress, which looks an awful lot like a business suit with military insignia in comparison to the Army Class A’s. Blonsky appeared to just be wearing a US Army Class A uniform, presumably with either his Brit insignia on it (authorized on US military uniforms under certain circumstances), or with equivalent/bullshitted-so-he-would-blend-in-for-the-mission Army insignia. There’s a couple of reasons why he might not be walking around in a Royal Marines uniform, including the presence of a British military operator on a US military mission being kept discrete, or just lack of available British uniforms for him to wear (a practical consideration, similar to how Airmen deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan wore the US Army ACUs for a while between when they stopped wearing the DCUs (the desert BDUs) and when they started wearing the ABUs (Grey tigerstriped better-fitting BDUs with more pockets). This really didn’t bother me much. I figured his relatively lax grooming standards were a combination of his special forces background (I hear they play uniform regs a little fast and loose) and the fact that he was hanging out with a Lieutenant General who obviously didn’t care. One thing that amused me more than it bothered me: Does General Ross even _own_ any caps? I don’t think we once see him outdoors with any kind of cover on. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/63 "2008-06-15T22:02:43Z")
[QUOTE=Raguleader] Air Force doesn’t have Class A’s as far as I know 😃 The nearest equivilant for the USAF is Service Dress, which looks an awful lot like a business suit with military insignia in comparison to the Army Class A’s. Blonsky appeared to just be wearing a US Army Class A uniform, presumably with either his Brit insignia on it (authorized on US military uniforms under certain circumstances), or with equivalent/bullshitted-so-he-would-blend-in-for-the-mission Army insignia. [/quote] Then why was it blue? > [@](#): > > One thing that amused me more than it bothered me: Does General Ross even _own_ any caps? I don’t think we once see him outdoors with any kind of cover on. 😛 My question was, does he own any civilian clothes? He’s in a bar at the end, getting tanked, in full uniform. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/64 "2008-06-15T22:19:34Z")
[QUOTE=RikWriter] My question was, does he own any civilian clothes? He’s in a bar at the end, getting tanked, in full uniform. [/QUOTE] My gf and I were laughing at that to. I imagine the army encourages its Generals to wear civilian clothing when they go out to get wasted. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/65 "2008-06-15T23:01:06Z")
[QUOTE=Simplicio] My gf and I were laughing at that to. I imagine the army encourages its Generals to wear civilian clothing when they go out to get wasted. [/QUOTE] Indeed, I think the US Military in general encourages its members to “Drink Responsibly”, leading to an occasionally used expression amongst my friends: “Responsibly Sloshed” 😃 RikWriter: I don’t recall it being blue, although the Army does have some blue uniforms too, though I’ve never seen them in person. Speaking of Army vs. Air Force uniforms, I _really_ wish we could get some marksmenship badges for our uniforms like the Army and Marines do. All we get is a little ribbon. The Navy at least gets separate ribbons for handguns and rifles. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bubastis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d07c76/32.png) [@bubastis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubastis)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2008, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/66 "2008-06-15T23:49:48Z")
**HULK IS STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!!!** I just really wanted him to say this. He had EVERY opportunity, and yet didn’t. Ah well. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/67 "2008-06-16T03:18:07Z")
[QUOTE=Raguleader] RikWriter: I don’t recall it being blue, although the Army does have some blue uniforms too, though I’ve never seen them in person. [/QUOTE] Unless things have changed a lot since I was in, I think the Army Class A uniform is still green. Maybe it’s my eyes or the projector at the local theater, but I coulda sworn his dress uniform was a USAF blue. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/68 "2008-06-16T03:51:57Z")
[QUOTE=RikWriter] Unless things have changed a lot since I was in, I think the Army Class A uniform is still green. Maybe it’s my eyes or the projector at the local theater, but I coulda sworn his dress uniform was a USAF blue. [/QUOTE] Hm… I can’t find a screen shot of him in uniform (the best one would be from when he’s walking-and-talking with General Ross in the hallway towards the beginning of the film), but I seem to recall that it was the same color as whatever the General was wearing. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/69 "2008-06-21T16:19:30Z")
[QUOTE=freekalette] **Re: Brad Pitt as Thor** Personality-wise, he could do it, and very well at that. But I sincerely hope they don’t cast him in the role. Thor has to be super buff, like Ahnold was back when Predator came out. He’s a GOD, so he needs some godly muscles. Brad Pitt just isn’t big enough to pull it off. [/QUOTE] Uh…[really](http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/05/14/troy/vert.pitt.troy.jpg) ? I agree he’s no Lou Ferrigno (still huge!), but if they really want Pitt, he could pull it off I think. And one could also argue that if you’re a god you don’t need to be enormous; godly powers don’t require muscles. That said, I saw _The Incredible Hulk_ last night and liked it quite a lot! After reading some crap reviews I expected to be disapointed. Ang Lee’s \*Hulk \*was an admirable effort, but it was too leadenly-paced and serious for a summer action blockbuster. I thought this one struck the balance really well - good pacing, intelligent characters, a dash of humor without being campy, eeeevil villians and a believable love story. And I do think this Hulk had more of the confused self-awareness that the comic book character had. I agree with other posters that his emoting at the cave and during the final fight scene was especially great. And I simply like Ed Norton and Liv Tyler better in these roles. Don’t know why, but I do. Jennifer Connelly bugs me for some reason. CGI characters always seem too light on their feet, but I felt it worked a lot better in this film than the previous one. Probably because the technology is a few years more advanced, and the design of Hulk just feels more real. He’s smaller, too, which I think improves the sense of reality. Although every review seems to say he’s 15 feet tall he seemed more like 10 to me, and that helps you buy that the 6-ft. Norton could turn into him. And I loved Tim Roth, in all his scenery-chewing glory. He’s just so great. By the way, did anyone catch the \*Reservoir Dogs \*reference? 😃 Was the scientist guy (Tim Blake Nelson) a regular in the comic books? It seemed like that was leading to something. I hadn’t seen the trailer in a while so I didn’t notice until today, but it does look like there was a cut scene between the shrink and Bruce: After Betty picks up Bruce in the rain after spotting him at the pizza parlor, she takes him home. It is implied that she lives there alone, but later when the General comes to ransack the house, the shrink is there, so it appears they lived together (thus, the separate bedroom for Bruce). That night the shrink talks to Bruce and they have the “there are aspects of my personality that I can’t control” chat. Then we find out in the conversation between the shrink and the General that the shrink ratted out Bruce, later regretting it when he sees that the Hulk actually protected Betty. Also in the trailer but not the film is Bruce walking through some very snowy mountains and a scene of the General getting ripped a new one by a superior (is there a superior to a General? Maybe another General?) for his bio-weapons experiment going awry. Which would give him more motivation for wanting to stop the Abomination than simply concern for the well-being of Harlem denizens. ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/70 "2008-06-21T20:37:23Z")
[QUOTE=Rachael Rage] Also in the trailer but not the film is Bruce walking through some very snowy mountains and a scene of the General getting ripped a new one by a superior (is there a superior to a General? Maybe another General?) for his bio-weapons experiment going awry. Which would give him more motivation for wanting to stop the Abomination than simply concern for the well-being of Harlem denizens. [/QUOTE] Well, General Ross in the movie would be more properly titled as “Lieutenant General Ross”, one star is Brigadier General, two stars is Major General, three is Lieutenant General, and four stars is General. So a General would outrank General Ross, and even that aside, you will on occasion have officers of equal rank in positions of seniority over other officers of their rank for organizational reasons, especially when you get into the very top tiers of military organization where everyone has four stars on their collar. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/71 "2008-06-21T22:17:12Z")
[QUOTE=adam yax] The term I just saw used to describe the new movie is _requel_. That is a sequel that reboots its source material. [/QUOTE] That’s been done before, right? My mind immediately went to the Highlander “sequels,” but there should be better examples. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/72 "2008-06-22T05:13:38Z")
[QUOTE=Atrael] On screen appearance by Bill Bixbie. [/QUOTE] Where was that? In retrospect I remember Stan Lee and Ferigno, but I missed Bixbie (and he seems not to be listed in IMDB.) ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/73 "2008-06-22T09:59:11Z")
At one point, Banner is watching TV, and it is an old Bill Bixby show (_The Courtship of Eddie’s Father_, maybe?). RE: the uniforms. In the theater where I saw it, they looked green to me. And Ross’s cap had army-style oak leaves on the visor. I could have sworn Blonski was wearing a US uniform, with US-style captain’s bars on the shoulder straps. I really hated the portrayal of General Ross. In the first movie, he was an adversary, but you could understand his viewpoint and motivation. In this one, he was simply a cartoon villain. One thing that struck me: Liv Tyler is several inches taller, and a lot more muscular, than Ed Norton. Overall, I enjoyed it. Not great art, but good entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/74 "2008-06-22T14:57:23Z")
[QUOTE=mbh] At one point, Banner is watching TV, and it is an old Bill Bixby show (_The Courtship of Eddie’s Father_, maybe?). [/QUOTE] Yes. [QUOTE=mbh] One thing that struck me: Liv Tyler is several inches taller, and a lot more muscular, than Ed Norton. [/QUOTE] Edward Norton is 6’0’ to 6’1" depending on who is reporting, and Liv Tyler is 5’10". Granted, Ed is a skinny guy, and she is quite shapely, which makes her look larger, but Liv is not any taller than him unless she wears very high heels. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/75 "2008-06-22T15:18:32Z")
I stand corrected. But in some of their scenes together, she looked like she could break him in half. Regarding the disagreements about the color of the uniforms: with digital projectors, is it possible for the projectionist to tweak the color balance? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/76 "2008-06-22T16:37:59Z")
FWIW, I noticed that at one point they were wearing blue uniforms as well. At one point they were both walking down the hallway in some military base or something discussing Hulk related matters, and they’re both wearing the same color blue. It was odd enough that I remembered it, since Ross is wearing green for the rest of the movie. Seems pretty blatant for a continuity error, but I can’t really think why they’d stick an Army General in a blue uniform for one scene. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/77 "2008-06-22T17:22:58Z")
If we are thinking of the same scene, the hall was dimly lit, and all of the colors were a bit washed-out. The scene where Blonski says, "If you took what I know now, and put it in the body I had ten years ago . . . "? ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/78 "2008-06-22T17:31:43Z")
Yea, that’s the scene. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/79 "2008-06-22T19:05:19Z")
The dim light gave everything a grayish tinge, but they still looked green to me. I think there must be different color balances in different theaters. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669/80 "2008-06-22T21:22:22Z")
Another thought just occurred to me. In the early comic books, General Ross and Major Talbot were often depicted wearing blue uniforms. Ross’ command always seemed to include both air and land forces. Until fairly recently (late 1980s, I think), I don’t believe they ever explicitly stated whether Ross was Army or Air Force. Perhaps the filmakers deliberately filmed that scene under blue lights, as an homage to the old comic books. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-hulk-the-worlds-most-expensive/452669.md?page=5)