# New Info On The 1918 Origins Of The Spanish Flu \[Article is from Jan 2014\] **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 25, 2021, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921 "2021-05-25T22:33:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/41 "2021-05-27T00:07:10Z")
> The part about 'History being amended had to do with the SPANISH FLU NOT COVID! I never said it did. Please read with more care and less emotion. The second article you posted. The 2021 article. That one. THAT article had nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of the spanish flu. THAT article had nothing to do with your original post that claimed “new info on the origins of the spanish flu”. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/42 "2021-05-27T00:14:11Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Please read with more care and less emotion. > The second article you posted. The 2021 article. That one. > THAT article had nothing whatsoever to do with the origin of the spanish flu. THAT article had nothing to do with your original post that claimed “new info on the origins of the spanish flu”. Yeah, you implied it. Look, even the US government is looking into Covid: > **[Biden orders closer review of Covid origins as U.S. intel weighs Wuhan lab...](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/26/biden-orders-us-intelligence-to-intensify-investigation-into-covid-19-origins.html)** > > President Biden ordered a closer intelligence review of what he said were two equally plausible scenarios of the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic. So, get off the idea that it is some sort of racist conspiracy theory. And, his stuff has been about the origin of _the Spanish Flu_. If science finds out it was Kansas- fine. It it was China- also fine. That is how science works. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/43 "2021-05-27T00:15:12Z")
The timing of this post is… interesting. That was all I implied. ---
**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/44 "2021-05-27T00:16:15Z")
Frankly personally I don’t care whether Covid, the Spanish flu or any other virus originated. The article was interesting. Since Covid there has been a renewed interest in the Spanish flu because I’ve read threads on this board. People are SO SENSITIVE to anything that does not fit the majority of the new and improved vision of the enlightened woke visionaries on anything from politics, religion, science, climate warming. Its to the point and I’ll say I for one am tired of sharing my thoughts on anything no matter what the discussion. If they can’t find fault with your cite or source then it’s your punctuation. ---
**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/45 "2021-05-27T00:24:26Z")
Yea the government looked into it fact. Another thing when the masses believe anything and everything the government says as the only truth then society has a real problem. Politicians lie, they lie to protect their finianicial interests. They lie to voters on the campaign trail. Leopards don’t change their spots. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/46 "2021-05-27T00:27:07Z")
Yeah, that could have been why the article surfaced, I agree. That does not make it some sort of white supremacist conspiracy theory. Even if they would jump for joy if it were confirmed. ---
**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/47 "2021-05-27T00:39:35Z")
## “The lab escape scenario for the origin of the SARS2 virus, as should by now be evident, is not mere hand-waving … " Read Nicholas Wade’s Bulletin piece that sparked renewed interest in the lab-leak theory: [https://bit.ly/3nWZhjS](https://t.co/Ob3pg4rec2) MAY 26 2121 [https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/science/covid-19-origins-who.amp.html](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/science/covid-19-origins-who.amp.html) "President Biden on Wednesday ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to investigate the origins of the coronavirus, indicating publicly that his administration takes seriously the possibility that it was accidentally leaked from a lab, as well as the prevailing theory that it was transmitted to humans by an animal. In a statement, Mr. Biden made clear that the agencies had not reached consensus on how the virus originated. But he directed them to “redouble their efforts” and report back in 90 days." Since I’m accused of illuding to CT theories i hope this isn’t off topic." ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/48 "2021-05-27T00:40:10Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > That does not make it some sort of white supremacist conspiracy theory. I never said it was. ---
**Author:** ![shh1313](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shh1313/32/8020_2.png) [@shh1313](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shh1313)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/49 "2021-05-27T00:43:41Z")
Plausible deniability. That’s what I refer to when the rules are pussyfooted around to imply their desired point without directly violating the TOS or posting rules. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/50 "2021-05-27T01:17:50Z")
> [@shh1313](#): > > Politicians lie, they lie to protect their finianicial (sic) interests. They lie to voters on the campaign trail. Leopards don’t change their spots. _Panthera pardus_, heal thyself. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/51 "2021-05-27T01:23:18Z")
Ah, so any pointing out of basic error in a post is simply “woke” and need not be acknowledged. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/52 "2021-05-27T01:43:47Z")
> [@shh1313](#): > > Its to the point and I’ll say I for one am tired of sharing my thoughts on anything no matter what the discussion. I do declare, I can’t decide whether to clutch my pearls or give in to the vapours. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/53 "2021-05-27T01:46:41Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > What has been said is that “Whatever the merits of Humphries research, and it might yet be proven true, it’s being promoted here as a racist, xenophobic dog whistle.” Please don’t call posters racist and xenophobic outside of the pit. > [@shh1313](#): > > My post has NOTHING TO DO WITH COVID. GET OFF MY ASS! And if you feel people are insulting you, report it. But don’t scream at everyone in the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/54 "2021-05-27T01:56:39Z")
I’d like to point out that I was quoting [penultima\_thule], and I was not calling any poster these names. thank you ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/55 "2021-05-27T01:59:23Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Didn’t Obama’s grandparents live in Kansas? I smell a right wing conspiracy theory here. His grandfather was born in Wichita in 1918 (about 50-some miles south of Ft Riley) and his grandmother was born in Peru KS (a bit farther south and east) in '22, about the time the pandemic had run its course. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/56 "2021-05-27T02:19:11Z")
**Modnote** : OK, enough. This thread has been a mess to start and you don’t know how to walk away apparently. No need for and not being tolerated. Please do not do this again. > [@shh1313](#): > > GET OFF MY ASS! I’m going to go ahead and close this mess. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/57 "2021-05-27T02:19:18Z")
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-info-on-the-1918-origins-of-the-spanish-flu-article-is-from-jan-2014/942921/58 "2021-05-27T02:47:23Z")
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