# New-ish "free speech" app, Parler **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2020, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109 "2020-11-09T03:40:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/241 "2021-01-11T10:41:06Z")
If hackers have that data, you can be sure the security agencies have it as well. They trusted Parler to be secure because they claimed they were? They uploaded their driver’s licences to an app promising privacy and anonimity? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/242 "2021-01-11T12:45:32Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > That’s not to say that I don’t see any problems with Big Tech essential monopoly power, because I do and always have. But this is the model that conservatives’ market-fundamentalism ideology was just fine with, until a lot of their ideas started losing market share and having to face the market consequences of massive unpopularity. Maybe this would be a good opportunity to do something about the Big Tech monopoly, now conservatives understand it has the ability to censor their own (actually still popular) ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/243 "2021-01-11T12:50:18Z")
The issue obviously has nothing to do with “free speech” and everything to do with a company’s right to control its property or to access thereof. I saw a great explanation on Facebook that any right winger should be able to understand: “Think of “Parler” as a Christian bakery, and then think of Trump as a Gay wedding cake.” LOL ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/244 "2021-01-11T13:23:56Z")
I heard this morning(on reddit, so who knows) that Parler was hacked and most of the posts, videos, and even deleted posts were leaked out there onto the web. Let’s hope: To: FBI and NSA From: RedditUser420 Subj: Everything! ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/245 "2021-01-11T13:29:14Z")
Scroll up a bit; we have a couple of posts about the hack. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/246 "2021-01-11T13:37:39Z")
Y’know… If you’re creating an ultrarightwing, Trumpist social connection platform… Why in the world would you host it at AMAZON??? Like, Jeff #$\*#∆ Bezos’ Amazon? And man, their ID verifier was a free trial??? Very big brains. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/247 "2021-01-11T14:27:42Z")
> [@GreenWyvern](#): > > If the app is not being hosted by app stores they can **never update** it or grow it further, and that will kill it, even if they find hosting in Russia or somewhere. My bold above. This incorrect, at least of android. I have used several android apps that are not on the Play Store, and when they required updates, the app would tell me that I needed to and provided the link to the download. You just have turn off install only trusted apps, and then you can install whatever you want on your android device. Yes, it is not as convenient as having the Play store do it for you, but if you are invested in having a particular app, it is not particularly burdensome to do so. I don’t know if the same is true for Apple though as I do not have any Apple devices. `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/248 "2021-01-11T14:40:26Z")
Same for Apple, @icon. I do mobile game testing and I download apps outside of the Apple store all the time. Just gotta approve them in Settings. ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/249 "2021-01-11T14:40:26Z")
Yes, true, but 95% of people who use smartphones will _never_ tweak their phones and download and install apps from elsewhere. It’s too complicated for them… … and this specific app is targeted at morons! ---
**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/250 "2021-01-11T14:42:20Z")
The right has a saying “Get woke, go broke.” We need something similar that expresses if you support a seditious attempted coup, then your business future might be in jeopardy. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/251 "2021-01-11T14:43:21Z")
I wonder if they have left up any posts calling for the execution of Biden, Harris or Pelosi? ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/252 "2021-01-11T14:46:08Z")
The EXIF data not being wiped is weird. I wonder if something changed. I found this security analysis PDF from July 2020 that seems even-handed of Parler, but it did say (on page 30) that “Parler is extremely effective with their metadata wiping.” It then provides an example of a photo that was uploaded and then download back from their site and the change in EXIF data to basically nothing. > **[Parler\_Research\_Whitepaper.pdf](https://penetrum.com/parler/Parler_Research_Whitepaper.pdf)** > > 1942.99 KB ---
**Author:** ![Deeg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deeg/32/2955_2.png) [@Deeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Deeg)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/253 "2021-01-11T15:57:50Z")
“Coup” rhymes with a lot of words. “Try coup, eat poo?” ---
**Author:** ![GreenWyvern](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/greenwyvern/32/2834_2.png) [@GreenWyvern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreenWyvern)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/254 "2021-01-11T15:58:07Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > It then provides an example of a photo that was uploaded and then download back from their site and the change in EXIF data to basically nothing. I wonder if the EXIF data was only being wiped from file downloads, not from the files they were storing on their system. If they wanted that data for other purposes, e.g. selling it to the Russians, they might want to keep it. Or maybe just laziness, if you don’t like conspiracy theories. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/255 "2021-01-11T16:28:04Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > The right has a saying “Get woke, go broke.” We need something similar that expresses if you support a seditious attempted coup, then your business future might be in jeopardy. They have their own way to say “woke”, at least the Q-anon folks. They use the spelling as “W **Q** KE” as the fur and horned guy in the capitol had in his car sticker. “Get WQKE, go broke. Kek, kek!” ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/256 "2021-01-11T16:36:52Z")
Incite it, bite it. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/257 "2021-01-11T16:37:27Z")
Don’t be a coup-coup. Though if this goes the way of Parler-\>Parlor, it won’t work at all. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/258 "2021-01-11T16:38:10Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > The right has a saying “Get woke, go broke.” We need something similar that expresses if you support a seditious attempted coup, then your business future might be in jeopardy. Support coups, you loose, you cooze! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/259 "2021-01-11T16:41:12Z")
Coup men enter, dumb men leave. Stop the steal? Face the wheel! ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109/260 "2021-01-11T16:56:39Z")
> [@BeepKillBeep](#): > > The right has a saying “Get woke, go broke.” We need something similar that expresses if you support a seditious attempted coup, then your business future might be in jeopardy. “Violent mob, out of a job”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-ish-free-speech-app-parler/925109.md?page=14)