# New Jay and Silent Bob movie

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 20, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327 "2019-07-20T00:20:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/1 "2019-07-20T00:20:15Z")

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The trailer for _Jay and Silent Bob Reboot_ is up online (it’s a red band trailer so NSFW).

[trailer](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyQyEvX9eaY)

I’m a big Kevin Smith fan but I have mixed feelings. Smith has already retired the characters twice. Bringing them back a third time seems a little desperate. And his recent movies have been bad.

But the reason his recent movies were bad is because Smith has inexplicably been making horror movies. This is going to be a comedy, which is where Smith’s strength lies. And the first time he brought the characters out of retirement, the result was _Clerks II_, which I regard as one of his best movies.

So overall, cautious optimism.

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**Author:** ![BobBitchin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ea924/32.png) [@BobBitchin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobBitchin)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/2 "2019-07-20T00:51:43Z")

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I will give it a chance. But I think it may be too late.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/3 "2019-07-20T00:52:53Z")

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I’ll check it out when it hits Netflix. Not before.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/4 "2019-07-20T01:20:08Z")

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Kevin should just accept his role as a commentator on movies, not a maker of them. He’s made a couple of interesting movies and can deliver some quirky fun dialogue scenes but his movies, on the whole, are pretty lame and uninteresting. I think my brother phrases it “he’s a fanboy who got lucky”.

Eta: though maybe a Jay and Silent Bob movie is mostly accepting that and just keeping his creds current. No one, including Smith, is thinking this will be much of a money maker.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/5 "2019-07-20T01:33:52Z")

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I will admit, Clerks II was great. He really should have made a Clerks III.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/6 "2019-07-20T02:28:27Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> No one, including Smith, is thinking this will be much of a money maker.

A Kevin Smith movie is close to a sure bet. Pretty much all of his movies have made a profit (the only exceptions have been his horror movies and _Jersey Girl_, which was his attempt at a big budget movie). Because Smith knows how to make a movie for a low budget; good dialogue is cheap. So he can make a movie for ten million dollars and it will make twenty or thirty million dollars.

Smith may never have a blockbuster like _Avengers: Endgame_. But he’ll never have a failure like _Mortal Engines_ either.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/7 "2019-07-20T03:19:43Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I will admit, Clerks II was great. He really should have made a Clerks III.

He had a script for Clerks III ready to go but Jeff Anderson reportedly was not interested in being Randall again.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/8 "2019-07-20T03:45:43Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> He had a script for Clerks III ready to go but Jeff Anderson reportedly was not interested in being Randall again.

I’m kind of surprised. It’s a great role.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/9 "2019-07-20T06:06:21Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> I’m kind of surprised. It’s a great role.

Anderson has always been ambivalent about being an actor.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/10 "2019-07-20T06:58:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The trailer for _Jay and Silent Bob Reboot_ is up online (it’s a red band trailer so NSFW).

Wow! That looks terrible!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/11 "2019-07-20T07:17:39Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Wow! That looks terrible!

Are you saying this as somebody who has enjoyed past Kevin Smith movies but thinks this particular one looks bad? Or as somebody who isn’t a fan of Smith’s works in general?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/12 "2019-07-20T08:00:48Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Are you saying this as somebody who has enjoyed past Kevin Smith movies but thinks this particular one looks bad? Or as somebody who isn’t a fan of Smith’s works in general?

_Dogma_ is one of my three favorite movies of all time. I can recite the entirety of _Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back_ from memory. I have seen _Clerks 2_ at least 50 times. I cannot count the number of times I’ve seen _Clerks_. Heck, I’ve watched episode 5 of the _Clerks_ cartoon so often that my DVD just starts playing it automatically when I put it in the DVD player. I’ve seen every Comic-Con speaking gig he did, some of them multiple times. I think it’s fair to say that I’m a fan of (some of) his work. 😃

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/13 "2019-07-20T12:34:49Z")

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So he’s doing a retread of the earlier, crappy, movie? Gotta stop the movie being made. What???

He lost his skill at snappy dialogue a long time ago. And J&SB are secondary characters, not leads.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/14 "2019-07-20T12:44:04Z")

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**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/15 "2019-07-20T13:39:48Z")

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This shit looks so terrible honestly, I mean maybe I’ll check it out anyway, he shouldn’t have tried to make a sequel or retooling or whatever to jay and silent bob strike back but rather put them in some entirely new situation or something. I’m a fan of the characters and some of his movies, but this looks like the most uninspired dreck he could have shit out.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/16 "2019-07-20T13:47:13Z")

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My buddy told me this last night, but I was tired when I got home from work so I just found an article about it now: do y’all know _why_ this movie got made?

[Kevin Smith had one big regret when he thought he might die from a heart attack](https://ew.com/comic-con/2019/07/19/kevin-smith-heart-attack-jay-yoga-hosers-jay-and-silent-bob-reboot/)

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> When I had the heart attack and I was on the table they were like, ‘You might die.’ I was actually okay with that. I was like, I’ve had a great life. The only regret I had was, Man, I wish I had gotten to make _Jay and Silent Bob Reboot_, because now the last movie I ever made was _Yoga Hosers_. Fuck! But I did get to make _Jay and Silent Bob Reboot_, and now I feel like, well, if this was it, if I never got to make another movie — or if the heart came back and was like, ‘Aha!’ and fucking finally killed me — I’d be okay with this being the last movie.

So it was concern for his legacy that caused him to make this movie.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/17 "2019-07-20T17:10:34Z")

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Yoga Hosers wasn’t enough of a high note?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/18 "2019-07-20T17:18:57Z")

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I’m a pretty big fan of Kevin’s comedies, but this doesn’t look very good.

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**Author:** ![Patx2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/73ab20/32.png) [@Patx2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patx2)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jay-and-silent-bob-movie/837327/19 "2019-07-20T20:03:46Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Wow! That looks terrible!

I agree, and I loved the original, and a lot of other Kevin Smith stuff, Clerks, Dogma, but I told my husband I don’t think I need to see this.
