# New Jersey Corruption \[Scandal\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 24, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093 "2009-07-24T06:47:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/21 "2009-07-24T22:04:56Z")

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I’m only sad that The Sopranos is no longer playing, because this would so fit in as one of the episodes.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/22 "2009-07-24T22:09:50Z")

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You know, we do convict more crooked politicians than any other state. Do you really think we are more corrupt than New York, Louisiana, Illinois or Michigan? Maybe we are just better at actually catching the crooks?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/23 "2009-07-24T23:34:51Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> The difference between this and the mafia is that it seems this money laundering operation was undertaken by Israeli citizens who lived in Israel. The Mafia was just a bunch of Americans of Italian descent.

Not really. The Mafia ( by whatever name ) had and has deep economic ties to mob back in the old country, primarily in Sicily, but more recently also Calabrese mobsters. For example most of the heroin trade on the eastern seaboard of the U.S. in 70’s and 80’s was in fact controlled by Sicilian mobsters rather than their American counterparts.

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/24 "2009-07-24T23:49:59Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> I’m not surprised at the politicians involved but am disgusted at the involvement of rabbis.

So basically what you’re saying is, silly rabbi, tricks are for politicians?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/25 "2009-07-25T00:59:13Z")

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As a longtime resident of the Chicago area, I, for one, welcome a different region taking the heat.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/26 "2009-07-25T06:38:50Z")

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Merged threads.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-jersey-corruption-scandal/504093/27 "2009-07-25T07:31:09Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> You know, we do convict more crooked politicians than any other state. Do you really think we are more corrupt than New York, Louisiana, Illinois or Michigan? Maybe we are just better at actually catching the crooks?

I seriously doubt it.

Anyway, the human body parts trafficking is a pretty strange angle. I’m eagerly awaiting more info about this, because that’s one of the oddest claims I’ve read in recent journalism. Who was trafficking body parts, and were the politicians involved? This whole thing is such a clusterfuck I can’t even wrap my head around.

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