# New Joker movie (Joaquin Phoenix)

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**Created:** [April 3, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix/831984 "2019-04-03T15:40:57Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix/831984/81 "2019-08-30T19:26:21Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> We do actually see the origin of Nicholson’s Joker in Burton’s first Batman film. He’s Jack Napier, a gangster who got doublecrossed, shot in the face, and dumped in a vat of toxic chemicals.

Very true - what I mean is I do not need an entire film devoted to it as this one appears to be. We see the origin story of Harley Quinn in Suicide Squad as well - as part of a larger story.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix/831984/82 "2019-08-31T16:27:22Z")

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This finally screened at the Venice Film Festival and my Twitter feed (set up to follow Festival reactions for several different films) is going crazy. People love it.

Here’s an article from The Hollywood Reporter.

[Venice: Joaquin Phoenix Delivers Strong Oscar Buzz as Evil Turn in New Portrait of ‘Joker’](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/venice-joaquin-phoenix-delivers-strong-oscar-buzz-as-evil-turn-joker-1235908?__twitter_impression=true)

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix/831984/83 "2019-08-31T17:33:47Z")

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Has anyone posted a link to the final trailer yet? If not, here it is:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/zAGVQLHvwOY/maxresdefault.jpg "JOKER - Final Trailer - Now Playing In Theaters") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAGVQLHvwOY)

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix/831984/84 "2019-09-01T00:47:59Z")

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Ratings based on the screening in Venice. (I stole this from someone)

Joker (2019)

IGN: 10/10  
Variety: 5/5  
Hollywood Reporter: 4.5/5  
Empire Magazine (UK): 10/10  
Total Film Magazine (UK): 10/10  
Collider: 9/10  
Forbes: 10/10  
L.A Times: 4/5  
Guardian (UK): 5/5  
Daily Telegraph (UK): 5/5

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-joker-movie-joaquin-phoenix/831984/85 "2023-07-21T14:08:27Z")

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Bumped.

A nice post-Oscar photo here:

> **[The stories behind 5 intimate celebrity photos | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/style/greg-williams-photo-breakdowns/index.html)**
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> Hollywood photographer Greg Williams shares “breakdowns” of some of his favorite celebrity portraits.

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